tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post8236253614292073363..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Capitalism in Crisis: IranFrank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-48301310109403798222009-10-13T15:40:09.786-05:002009-10-13T15:40:09.786-05:00We also support human and women’s rights in
Iran. ...We also support human and women’s rights in<br />Iran. Fashion, environmental responsibility and social justice can all be combined to change the world, please read our post for more info: http://fashionableearth.org/blog/2009/10/13/cause-of-the-season-iran/Fashionable Earthhttp://www.fashionableearth.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-20217123076106359942009-10-06T10:47:18.481-05:002009-10-06T10:47:18.481-05:008 out of 16 comments by this FJ
someone likes the...8 out of 16 comments by this FJ<br /><br />someone likes the sound of the their own voicePedacinhoshttp://escritosdanick.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-1812126536638389162009-10-06T10:45:11.251-05:002009-10-06T10:45:11.251-05:00That woman is hot in the picture!That woman is hot in the picture!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-91911445798796251132009-09-30T17:35:12.099-05:002009-09-30T17:35:12.099-05:00He is not above executing gays. LOL! Nobody said...<i>He is not above executing gays.</i> LOL! Nobody said he was a liberal, did they?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-21728800454387445452009-09-30T16:08:01.578-05:002009-09-30T16:08:01.578-05:00Nevin: I agree.
FJ: The USSR adopted just fine to...Nevin: I agree.<br /><br />FJ: The USSR adopted just fine to The Shah. The Tudeh Party never attacked The Shah until the end. The 1954 event was the overthrow of a relatively democratic government, who got in the way of the oil companies.<br /><br />You are stretching calling a religious nationalist a class warrior. He is as reactionary as the others. He is not above executing gays.<br /><br />Gert: Jimmy Carter straight out supported Saddam. The whole war was useless. Supporting any side was despicable.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-43457187142894157142009-09-30T14:50:12.361-05:002009-09-30T14:50:12.361-05:00The Mossadeq affair has at least as much to do wit...The Mossadeq affair has at least as much to do with a British desire to stop Iran from nationalising the Anglo Iranian Oil Company (three years later it similarly tried to stop, with France and Israel, the nationalisation of the Suez Canal). Post-war Britain was bankrupt and had lost nearly all of Empire with the associated loss of revenue that that entailed. More revenue loss could not be accepted.<br /><br />The coup itself would have been a blip in history if it wasn't for the fact that the Shah puppet regime really excelled in cruelty and oppressiveness. During the 26 years of post-coup Shah rule were laid the foundations for the notorious Iranian anti-American and anti-British feelings, still so much alive today.<br /><br />It's this kind of 'interventionism', together with the many 'anti-Communist' meddlings by the US in various parts of the world, that makes it hard to believe that the driver was anything other than pure self-interest, thinly disguised as 'spreading freedom and democracy'.<br /><br />Today is no different. Does anybody really believe the nuclear kerfuffle surrounding Iran has really anything to do with protecting the 'damsel in distress' Israel? Of course not. Israel can take care of herself vis-à-vis Iran, as at least Ehud Barak had the candour to (repeatedly) state so.<br /><br />And for the Israeli government this is the gift that keeps on giving: while pretending to be in the headlights of Iran, it can keep the Palestinian question out of the spotlights as much as possible...<br /><br />No, Iran wants to project power in the region (with or without nuclear weapons) and the West won't allow this. This isn't about 'women's rights' or 'the persecuted gays of Iran' (up to relatively recently the West didn't give rat's arse about either women or gays, wherever).<br /><br />This is why I'm loathe to support the supporters of 'regime change in Tehran': because most of them are two-faced hypocrites. As one Iranian blogger (and not an Ahmadinejad supporter, I can assure you) put it:<br /><br /><a href="http://developing-your-web-presence.blogspot.com/2009/06/we-dont-need-love.html" rel="nofollow">WE DON’T WANT THE LOVE! KEEP IT TO YOURSELVES! FOR EIGHT YEARS WE WERE BOMBED AND GASSED AND MASSACRED AND NOBODY EVER SAID A WORD! I DON’T REMEMBER THE ECONOMIST DEDICATING A COVER TO OUR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD BACK THEN! SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU HEINOUS, DESPICABLE SCOUNDRELS!</a>Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-34332496533102182662009-09-30T11:09:30.894-05:002009-09-30T11:09:30.894-05:00And if the USSR had not controlled Mohammed Mosedd...And if the USSR had not controlled Mohammed Moseddeq, the USA would never have had to back the Shah...<br /><br />Yes it is "all connected".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-12857371460586589952009-09-30T07:15:07.182-05:002009-09-30T07:15:07.182-05:00The problem lies when powerful nations, such as th...The problem lies when powerful nations, such as the US, meddle in the business of weaker nations... If Mohammed Mosaddeq (Prime Minister of Iran) was not over thrown in 1953 and replaced by Shah, the Mullahs would have never come to power. It's like a domino effect... Everything is connected....Nevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14695297829881237662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-83533303510992446792009-09-30T07:14:51.174-05:002009-09-30T07:14:51.174-05:00Al-Sadr is a nationalist.
If anything, he's a...<i>Al-Sadr is a nationalist.</i><br /><br />If anything, he's a religious Persian/Shi'a "class warrior". His family DIED protecting the poor and oppressed of Bahgdad, Sadr City. Unlike the other clerics who fled to Qom, al-Sadr's family STAYED and protected the Shi'a trapped under Saddam. Saddam killed his father and brother. Al-Sadr distributes millions in Islamic charity money. He's "the people's man". And the people reward him by making him the leader of the Mahdi Army.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-1279565430661725792009-09-30T05:46:55.708-05:002009-09-30T05:46:55.708-05:00The more I look at the situation, the less certain...The more I look at the situation, the less certain I am as to how things will pan out.<br /><br />Iranian society has a whole series of fault lines and, right now, it is not easy to predict which ones will break, but break they will.jams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-23863911671404738342009-09-30T00:33:26.727-05:002009-09-30T00:33:26.727-05:00FJ: Al-Sadr is a nationalist.
I don't see s...FJ: Al-Sadr is a nationalist. <br /><br />I don't see such a scenario.<br /><br />Pagan: Sistani is powerful, also old and weak. He hasn't been active.<br /><br />The Communist Party in Iran (Tudeh) supported The Shah until it was no longer feasible. That was Stalinist policy.<br /><br />The Shah in his modenization program, created what destroyed him. With modernization came a working class. It had no history of union bureaucrats teaching compromise. The oil workers overthrew The Shah. The overthrow of The Shah, wasn't the same forces that brought in mullahs.<br /><br />He was ruthless, but less than the current government.<br /><br />The workers didn't enter the protest movement in big numbers, like against The Shah.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-77881938056222561552009-09-29T20:43:17.589-05:002009-09-29T20:43:17.589-05:00I might be off base here, but I don't think th...I might be off base here, but I don't think the Iranians want to unite the two countries. They just want to dominate the region, but they don't want to have to deal with the Sunnis and the Kurds in the way they would be forced to if they actually united the two nations.<br /><br />Woods does at least recognize that it would probably not lead initially to a true socialist nation. Plus, he also even credited the middle class and even some elements from amongst the mullahs for being instrumental in the current uprising (for lack of a better word) against the regime, not merely the "working class".<br /><br />I should also point out that I have sensed an unfortunate trend among the right to romanticize the Shah and his former regime. He may not have been as bad as the current mess, and he might not have been as potentially destructive as what he replaced, but there were after all valid reasons he was overthrown. It would be a big mistake to make him into something he was not. That is a road best left untraveled.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-17149420454478167862009-09-29T18:50:57.431-05:002009-09-29T18:50:57.431-05:00Being "Iraqi" is no impediment. Ali al-...Being "Iraqi" is no impediment. Ali al-Sistani, the Grand Ayatollah who controls Shi'a Islam's holiest mosques and schools in Najaf, Iraq, has the most influence of all mullahs over the Iraqi government. He is an Iranian.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-1000940165981532672009-09-29T18:47:37.009-05:002009-09-29T18:47:37.009-05:00These democratic demands must be summed up with on...<i>These democratic demands must be summed up with one slogan, for a nationwide general strike and soviets (shoras). If they did that, this regime would be finished.</i><br /><br />Someone's obviously wishing that it could be turned into a "workers revolt". THAT isn't going to happen. Ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-61219114921221646922009-09-29T16:15:20.315-05:002009-09-29T16:15:20.315-05:00FJ: If you read the post, you would know it doesn&...FJ: If you read the post, you would know it doesn't say it was a worker's revolt.<br /><br />I think Maliki is just as pro-Iranian as Al-Sadr. Al-Sadr is too nationalist to unite the countries. As for the Iranian government, they go with who is strongest.<br /><br />North Korea is off topic. I'll post something when something happens. In reply read between the lines. North Korea is interested in the Chinese path. I could reply with a book, but save North Korea discussion for another time.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-27036068387464046252009-09-29T13:31:33.393-05:002009-09-29T13:31:33.393-05:00LOL!
You should be happy to note that Kim Jong Il...LOL!<br /><br />You should be happy to note that Kim Jong Il is no longer claiming to be a communist, he's now "officially" a socialist....<br /><br /><i>Kim Jong-il Opts for Socialism Over Communism - North Korean leader Kim Jong-il apparently explained the deletion of the word "communism" from the country's constitution, which was revised in April. "It is difficult to comprehend communism. I will try to get socialism right," Kim was reported as saying by a spokesman for the state-run Minju Chosun newspaper.<br /><br />The spokesman was talking to South Korean reporters on the sidelines of inter-Korean family reunions in Mt. Kumgang. "This is the reason behind the deletion of 'communism' from the constitution," he said. "Communism is meant to be a one-class society where there is no distinction between exploiter and exploited, but that system cannot exist while American imperialism lasts."<br /><br />The term "communism" has been removed from clauses 29, 40 and 43 of the revised constitution, disclosed for the first time on Monday by South Korean officials who obtained a copy.<br /><br />"It appears that North Korea has decided it is better to be flexible stance and reform the system from a socialist perspective rather than continue droning on about something as anachronistic as communism," said Kim Yong-hyun, a North Korean studies professor at Dongkuk University. "Through these changes, North Korea appears to be sending out a message that Kim Jong-il is firmly in control and leading the country."<br /><br />Meanwhile, Clause 100 of the revised constitution stipulates, "The chairman of the National Defense Committee is the supreme leader," officially recognizing Kim Jong-il's absolute power. Clause 101 stipulates that Kim's term will last as long as the committee exists, and Clause 102 states he serves as the commander in chief of the military. Those clauses did not exist before.</i><br /><br />I would have thought that a <br />"constitution" provided by an absolute dictator was unnecessary, but now I see its' true value, the maintenance of "linguistic aesthtics"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-44584104460437550122009-09-29T12:28:17.134-05:002009-09-29T12:28:17.134-05:00ps - Keep your eyes on Moqtada al-Sadr. Once he g...ps - Keep your eyes on Moqtada al-Sadr. Once he gets his diploma, he will unite Iran & Iraq and become the new Cyrus. Before long Persians will be reminiscing about the good ole days under the Shah and the merciful Savak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-26635053842437282792009-09-29T12:24:39.254-05:002009-09-29T12:24:39.254-05:00btw - What you're currently witnessing in Iran...btw - What you're currently witnessing in Iran is NOT a workers revolt. It's a liberal revolt that will end the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokumat-e_Islami_:_Velayat-e_faqih_(book_by_Khomeini)" rel="nofollow">velayat al-fiqh</a> and usher in a Democratic but secular Iraq-like regime.<br /><br />The mullahs will no longer spend their days attempting to directly control the government. They'll revert to indirect control, something more traditional and in keeping with Persian history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com