tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post7439352665861982596..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Defeat the reactionary military coup in Honduras – Mass mobilisation in the streets and general strike!Frank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-48829883031496593912009-07-07T05:49:45.060-05:002009-07-07T05:49:45.060-05:00Silly boy, wine is spelt with no h or e and comes ...Silly boy, wine is spelt with no h or e and comes from either Georgia or Iran.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-36647713553783483972009-07-06T18:56:44.554-05:002009-07-06T18:56:44.554-05:00...and that the whine from the UK still flows fals......and that the whine from the UK still flows falsetto.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-68063275970194537132009-07-06T14:56:22.969-05:002009-07-06T14:56:22.969-05:00Good to see Pagan still gets racist when he loses ...Good to see Pagan still gets racist when he loses his cool and that FJ likes comment ping-pong.<br /><br />Cool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-69215962992654216192009-07-06T14:30:21.690-05:002009-07-06T14:30:21.690-05:00FJ: There was no truth to the Nicaraguan troops on...<i>FJ: There was no truth to the Nicaraguan troops on the border stuff.</i><br /><br />They would have come over had Zelaya's plane been allowed to land all right... and they would have supervised Zelaya's purge of Honduras officer corps.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-84124826184473904822009-07-06T14:13:48.276-05:002009-07-06T14:13:48.276-05:00See the new post.
FJ: There was no truth to the N...See the new post.<br /><br />FJ: There was no truth to the Nicaraguan troops on the border stuff.<br /><br />Chavez isn't worried about the mayor of Caracas.<br /><br />Zalaya's best chances of taking power come, if the coup plotters stick to their guns. A nudered Zalaya returning won't do much for his program.<br /><br />Pagan: There was about a half a million people in the streets.<br /><br />The new posts accurately explains Obama's role.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-523164474875824672009-07-06T09:35:35.139-05:002009-07-06T09:35:35.139-05:00Hugo is busy keeping the OAS focused on Honduras s...Hugo is busy keeping the OAS focused on Honduras so that they won't turn their attention to Antonia Ledezma's hunger strike. Antonio Ledezma was elected Mayor of the Metropolitan District by a majority of Caracas residents. Hugo then "appointed" a new mayor for the federal district, and transferred all the metropolitan mayor's resources to the "new office". Talk about a coup d'city... but then, Hugo remembers how Yeltsin as Mayor of Moscow was able to depose Gorby and fears the office Ledezma holds...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-68675990389519841272009-07-06T09:21:06.811-05:002009-07-06T09:21:06.811-05:00First off, sorry about the "racist crap"...First off, sorry about the "racist crap", as you put it. The point was, that was no place to bring a young kid. <br /><br />If the "damn babysitter was sick", then maybe the parents should have kept their asses home. If there was 200,000 people there, they would not have been missed. <br /><br />As for not expecting to be shot, I call bullshit on that too. Anytime a crowd amasses for the purpose of overthrowing a regime, you can expect there to be at least the strong potential for violence. <br /><br />Finally, Obama may or may not support Zelaya, but he has in no uncertain terms denounced the coup, and I have no doubt he is doing so to kiss up to the OAS. He should keep the hell out of it if he can't find his way clear to support Honduran sovereignty. Which that is what he should do, especially during the Independence Day holidays.<br /><br />Because that's what this is all about, the right of a small nation to define its own policies and uphold the laws in its own consitution, which Zelaya, again, for the umpteenth time, was trying to trash by his actions, actions, which, also again, were denounced by the country's Supreme Court.<br /><br />The military was acting on the orders of the Supreme Court. They were not acting arbitrarily, on their own initiative.<br /><br />This is about national sovereignty and independence, and for Obama to oppose that, over the Fourth of July weekend of all times, for the purposes of kissing up to the likes of Chavez and the other members of the OAS, is beyond the pale, and goes a long way towards showing just in what little regard he holds the US Constitution and our own national sovereignty.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-19644918460101753182009-07-06T07:13:05.751-05:002009-07-06T07:13:05.751-05:00It will be ended politically. Fresh elections in ...It will be ended politically. Fresh elections in 7 months. Once the new elections take place, Zelaya will have ZERO street cred ANYWHERE in the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-16240541671515075202009-07-06T01:54:16.882-05:002009-07-06T01:54:16.882-05:00The 200,000 people who came to the airport, should...The 200,000 people who came to the airport, should set up a representative committee, with delegates from each workplace, school etc. to form a coordinating committee. Since the institutions are under oligarchy control, they should have the representatives become the new government.<br /><br /><i>By the way, what kind of fucking moron takes a kid to a demonstration knowing there could be violence? What do these people think they are, Palestinians or something?</i><br /><br />Keep your racist crap on your own blog.<br /><br />You don't expect to be shot at, when you're with 200,000 people. The damn babysitter was sick.<br /><br />Obama doesn't support Zalaya. The US only cares about stability. Obama doesn't want a reputation like Bush's. Chavez called it right, blaming Obama.<br /><br />Unfortunately Trotsky was right. Reform is impossible in a developing country. The democratic and socialist stage need to be combined.<br /><br />This is going to be ended diplomatically. The coup is isolated by most governments, and Honduras depends on imports.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-36565019440947791882009-07-05T22:11:22.973-05:002009-07-05T22:11:22.973-05:00The more the merrier. For that matter, from what I...The more the merrier. For that matter, from what I hear, those rickety old planes they use down there aren't in the best of shape a lot of times. I've heard these rumors that they have been known to fall apart in mid-flight. All it takes is a sudden change in altitude, or a descent toward an airport, and they just break up. I've even heard that when this happens, it strangely resembles something being struck by a rocket in mid-air.<br /><br />By the way, what kind of fucking moron takes a kid to a demonstration knowing there could be violence? What do these people think they are, Palestinians or something?SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-5346982994105804672009-07-05T20:38:57.958-05:002009-07-05T20:38:57.958-05:00Two people supposedly died during the airport demo...Two people supposedly died during the airport demonstrations in Tegucigalpa. Zelaya has announced that he plans another attempt tomorrow. Let's see how many more people he can get killed this time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-26876818599029223002009-07-05T15:52:47.069-05:002009-07-05T15:52:47.069-05:00Obama should be battered with this from now until ...Obama should be battered with this from now until the mid-terms. If the OAS and Obama get their way I hope there's not a fucking day goes by that a Zelayan government officials head isn't found stuck to a pike on the city streets. They are welcome to gang-rape their wives from the top of roof tops too. I've had it with these ass-hats.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-4503186477819277682009-07-05T15:28:12.260-05:002009-07-05T15:28:12.260-05:00Nicaragua has mobilized it's troops, which are...Nicaragua has mobilized it's troops, which are massing on the Honduran border, and will follow up with an invasion if Zelaya's privately owned (PDVSA) Venezuelan plane is allowed to land at 7 pm tonight in Teguchigalpa<br /><br />But then, Obama has given Chavez, the UN and OAS the international green light to make all the trouble they want. <br /><br />I'd shoot it down if it came into my air space... it'd save Honduras a ton of future meddling.<br /><br />The interim government had planned early elections. Now, they won't be needing them. Obama and Chavez have granted the people of Honduras a right to maintain a permanent dictatorship, should they decide to do so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-83229299622817202462009-07-05T11:09:29.268-05:002009-07-05T11:09:29.268-05:00There isn't any danger of an invasion, at leas...There isn't any danger of an invasion, at least not right away. What I'm worried is that the OAS will conduct trade sanctions against Honduras, and Obama will probably support such action, as will the EU. That is the real danger. If they do that to that small country, I hope it comes back to bite them all on the ass, in a big, bloody way.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-6018663422945396382009-07-05T09:41:53.725-05:002009-07-05T09:41:53.725-05:00But if Zelaya should try and return to Honduras to...But if Zelaya should try and return to Honduras today, I'm sure that the <a href="http://www.noticias24.com/actualidad/noticia/63549/prohiben-aterrizaje-en-honduras-al-avion-que-traslade-a-manuel-zelaya/" rel="nofollow">reception committee</a> will find suitable accomodations for the traitor and his entourage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-2662581858410667622009-07-05T09:15:32.554-05:002009-07-05T09:15:32.554-05:00The only way Zelaya will ever return to power in H...The only way Zelaya will ever return to power in Honduras is if Chavez militarily defeats the Honduran military, and Chavez is too much of a pussy to try.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-49293836521894395642009-07-05T08:01:49.967-05:002009-07-05T08:01:49.967-05:00Whether he is or is not a socialist is irrelevant,...Whether he is or is not a socialist is irrelevant, what is relevant is that he was trying to force through an unconstitutional change in the constitution by way of popular vote, which the constitution does not allow. He was told by the Supreme Court to stop, but he stubbornly refused and went on his way. Honduras is a sovereign nation. Chavez and Obama don't get a vote on how they conduct their affairs, or at least they shouldn't. <br /><br />The OAS sent a representative to Honduras to demand Zelaya be reinstated. His ass was sent packing. The current Honduran government has made it clear that if Zelaya returns to Honduras, he will be arrested. I hope they stick to that, and string his ass up.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-19965782049709230582009-07-05T00:44:58.624-05:002009-07-05T00:44:58.624-05:00I think by later today, we'll know when Zalaya...I think by later today, we'll know when Zalaya will be back in power.<br /><br />Pagan: Zalaya is no socialist or any kind of revolutionary. He threatened nobody. If he did he'd still be in power.<br /><br />FJ: That was a coup. Even Ray Charles could have seen that. They annulled an election.<br /><br />Chavez has different politics than Zalaya. He is more moderate. Moderation is not what's useful against the oligarchy. This is similar to attempts to destabilize the Bolivian government.<br /><br />When Zalaya returns, the first thing he should do, is dismantle the army for a militia.<br /><br />Gert: See desert Mystery's early comment.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-31138419614992288292009-07-04T10:52:05.513-05:002009-07-04T10:52:05.513-05:00Funny blog headline I read:
'Honduras v. Iran...Funny blog headline I read:<br /><br />'Honduras v. Iran: Coup we can believe in!'<br /><br />Ren: care to substantiate what you wrote at mine? That Israel is supporting the coup? Just curious...Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-55405699810730452452009-07-04T08:33:08.426-05:002009-07-04T08:33:08.426-05:00Was Zelaya forced to sign a resignation? It was e...Was Zelaya forced to sign a resignation? It was either that or be tried for high treason and be put to death. Zelaya chose the cowards way, so let him now die the cowards death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-21410659723678815162009-07-04T08:31:14.321-05:002009-07-04T08:31:14.321-05:00A Constitution is NOT a mutual suicide pact. When...A Constitution is NOT a mutual suicide pact. When a constitutionally empowered branch of government begins to commit national suicide and cede their power to Hugo Chavez, it's up to the other constitutionally empowered branches to stop them. That's what the Honduran Supreme Court and military authorities did to Zelaya. He resigned and was therefore permitted to leave the country. He then proceeded to lie about his resignation and pretend there had been a coup d'etat. There was NEVER any coup. That is a Bolivarian fabrication.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-68742305070293170042009-07-04T08:15:22.642-05:002009-07-04T08:15:22.642-05:00Viva la Revoluccion Hondureno. La OAS y el UN son...Viva la Revoluccion Hondureno. La OAS y el UN son curroptos! Viva Micheletti. Que el sin verguenza Manuel Zelaya se muere pronto!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-56478749641212312342009-07-03T23:29:22.198-05:002009-07-03T23:29:22.198-05:00Of course it was a coup, and it was a damn good on...Of course it was a coup, and it was a damn good one. The legalese struggle didn't work. They tried that. They went to the courts to try to get Zelaya to desist from his blatantly unconstitutional actions. The judges wouldn't listen. You see the results. What, you think people are going to give up their property, and their rights, because a small number of black-robed freaks say they have to? Evidently, the powers that be in Honduras had other ideas, and I say good on them.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-31428090399263232662009-07-03T22:49:58.353-05:002009-07-03T22:49:58.353-05:00Pagan: The constitution of Honduras has nothing to...Pagan: The constitution of Honduras has nothing to do with the coup. The oligarchy is punishing a class traitor. Zalaya is hardly a socialist. This is a case of the oligarchy proving Trotsky's permanent revolution correct. In a third world country, it is impossible to even give democratic or national demands as meager as what Zalaya proposes.<br /><br />This was a COUP. C-O-U-P. Not a legalese fight, but class struggle.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-30257735025665713672009-07-03T22:09:32.089-05:002009-07-03T22:09:32.089-05:00What difference does it make? Zelaya was trying to...What difference does it make? Zelaya was trying to trash the constitution anyway, and if he had succeeded, it would have been just a worthless piece of paper. It would have taken an eventual coup from the right to restore it. The military just hastened the inevitable, and by doing so, made the probability of success on their part that much faster, and that much surer. And maybe, for that matter, possible. <br /><br />The infringements you speak of are to be expected on a temporary basis, as state of emergency measures. Lincoln had to do much of the same things during the Civil War, and had to take much the same flak in the process. <br /><br />It's Zelaya who is the offender here.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.com