tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post5799785859147343328..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Bollywood: The Dark SideFrank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-80723141905642053162011-06-14T13:51:47.009-05:002011-06-14T13:51:47.009-05:00As a film buff who knows hardly anything about Bol...As a film buff who knows hardly anything about Bollywood, this is very interesting.<br /><br />Would you say the way films are financed effects the ideology of the films themselves? Hollywood movies do seem to be veering towards the fascistic (imagery, themes etc) with the influence of hedge fund financing (like Legendary Pictures) or co-operation from the Pentagon or the police. In fact, US movies seem even more right-wing than I'm used to these days.David K Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756535951359716522noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-81878874692733182772010-01-11T03:36:14.435-06:002010-01-11T03:36:14.435-06:00Great Post.....
I found your site on stumbleupon ...Great Post.....<br /><br />I found your site on stumbleupon and read a few of your other posts. Keep up the good work. I just added your RSS feed to my Google News Reader. Looking forward to reading more from you down the road!<br /><br />Thanks for sharing....surrogacy in Indiahttp://surrogacyabroad.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-26470607164679730982009-03-19T20:50:00.000-05:002009-03-19T20:50:00.000-05:00What the heck?!?!?! Bollywood is the best movie pr...What the heck?!?!?! Bollywood is the best movie producer of all times. And nobody has the right to criticize it, even Indians themselves...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-15506072936405978032008-01-12T06:23:00.000-06:002008-01-12T06:23:00.000-06:00Farmer: There is no ambiguity about which G-D is y...<I>Farmer: There is no ambiguity about which G-D is yours.</I><BR/><BR/>Sure there is. I'm a Platonist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-36922454030953029692008-01-11T13:28:00.000-06:002008-01-11T13:28:00.000-06:00Bollywoodfoodclub: We'll have a belated celebrati...Bollywoodfoodclub: We'll have a belated celebration of Indian independence.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-82675675974608543222008-01-11T11:24:00.000-06:002008-01-11T11:24:00.000-06:00Sukriya Renegade! Nice admission about Lagaan, Re...Sukriya Renegade! Nice admission about Lagaan, Renegade, and good recommendations Nandini. I'm sure you may have been screaming out from your dil Nandini, that Renegade may not know that Bollywood is a cornucopia of revolutionary and gangster films. Revolutionaries and gangsters are closely related cousins, hain na? So Renegage Eye, with pleasure I recommend some of the better revolutionary and /or gangster underworld films from my beloved India:<BR/><BR/>1. Sholay, 1975 <BR/>2. Don, 1978 <BR/>3. Don - The Chase Begins Again, 2006 <BR/>4. Dev, 2004<BR/>5. Sarkar,2005<BR/>6. Khakee, 2003<BR/>7. Dil Se, 1998<BR/>8. Apaharan, 2005<BR/>9. Black Friday , 2004<BR/>10. Bandit Queen, 1994<BR/>11. Omkara, 2006<BR/>12. Traffic Signal, 2007<BR/>13. Page 3 , 2005 <BR/>14. Fanaa, 2006<BR/>15. Lawaaris, 1981<BR/>16. Zanjeer , 1973<BR/>17. Deewaar, 1975<BR/>18. 3 Deewarein, 2003<BR/>19. and let’s not forget Mother India,1957, even that is revolutionary!<BR/><BR/>Jai Hind! Long live the revoution!<BR/>Fondly, Sita-ji<BR/><BR/>p.s., maybe you'll want to catch "Halla Bol!" which is showing in Brooklyn Center all weekend, it looks to be political and revolutionary.<BR/>http://bollywoodfoodclub.wordpress.com/movie-times/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-24844791217632077682008-01-11T06:24:00.000-06:002008-01-11T06:24:00.000-06:00Renegade, thanks for the add. I’m not surprised th...Renegade, thanks for the add. I’m not surprised that your favorite movie is Lagaan. After all, you appear to be a revolutionary!<BR/><BR/>You should check out Mangal Pandey and Rang de Basanti. They’re both Aamir Khan movies with revolutionary aspects and acts of rebellion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-88499663888243119112008-01-11T00:22:00.000-06:002008-01-11T00:22:00.000-06:00BollywoodFood Club: My favorite Bollywood movie ...BollywoodFood Club: My favorite Bollywood movie is <B>Lagaan: Once Upon a Time in India</B>. I'll add it tonight to my favorites. I cried at the end.<BR/><BR/>My post is dated. It was written several years ago.<BR/><BR/>I will add your blog to my blogroll, because you are MN based, and I can keep track of activities. I do like your blog.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-91643403275668695952008-01-10T22:44:00.000-06:002008-01-10T22:44:00.000-06:00Thanks for your comment and for visiting our blog....Thanks for your comment and for visiting our blog. The article on your site on Bollywood was interesting; unfortunately I think some of the information was not quite correct. For example, Sajawal Khan states in the article that about Bollywood movies that, “Most of the movies are shot either in Europe or America so that money can be transferred abroad.” That is incorrect. Some movies are filmed abroad, certainly not most. I think had the author known more about the genre, it would have been a more impressive article. For a better understanding of the issue of money laundering and underworld involvement in Bollywood, I would recommend, <BR/><BR/>MAXIMUM CITY, by Suketu Mehta <BR/><BR/>http://www.suketumehta.com/ <BR/><BR/>or<BR/><BR/>Bollywood: A History, by Mihir Bose<BR/> <BR/>http://www.amazon.com/Bollywood-History-Mihir-Bose/dp/0752428357<BR/><BR/>Both of these books contain a fuller understanding and explanation of the issue discussed in Sajawal Khan’s article.<BR/><BR/>BTW Renegade Eye, I didn’t notice any Bollywood or Indian cinema movies listed in your profile’s favorite movies! <BR/><BR/>All the best!<BR/>Sita-jiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-29445529726654408682008-01-10T20:43:00.000-06:002008-01-10T20:43:00.000-06:00Hey Farmer, throw a few more Gods in there and you...Hey Farmer, throw a few more Gods in there and you'll be workin' your way up to my religion ;) <BR/><BR/>Of course, you'll have to pay homage to all of them on a regular basis - as you would be the religious newbie.Anokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05675278947623136467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-5814315980537193832008-01-10T20:26:00.000-06:002008-01-10T20:26:00.000-06:00Farmer: There is no ambiguity about which G-D is ...Farmer: There is no ambiguity about which G-D is yours.<BR/><BR/>Daniel: There is always individual tragedy.<BR/><BR/>Centrist: Thank you for visiting my blog. I used to be in the B-52 left myself once.<BR/><BR/>The writer is Pakistani.<BR/><BR/>The new economy in India doesn't touch the vast majority of people living on 15 Rupees a day, or the 45% of children who are malnourished.<BR/><BR/>I like Bollywood movies and escapism myself.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-28987398711056682522008-01-10T18:49:00.000-06:002008-01-10T18:49:00.000-06:00G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, ...G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d, G_d<BR/><BR/>...is Great! Isn't that what you meant mim? LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-50635638312325491062008-01-10T09:40:00.000-06:002008-01-10T09:40:00.000-06:00Mr. Khan is seriously out of touch. Do you know if...Mr. Khan is seriously out of touch. Do you know if he even lives in India or is he from Pakistan?<BR/><BR/>“It is no coincidences that during this phase of Capitalism’s decay and degeneration, even cultural activities have been mired by greed and vulgarity…”<BR/><BR/>Capitalism is actually booming in India right now. I’ve been to the country a few times since the market opened to foreign investment and the amount of change in such a short amount of time is astounding. Investment continues, the middle-class is expanding, and TATA is set to purchase Jaguar and Land Rover. <BR/><BR/>But what do you expect from Marxists? They’ve been predicting the imminent collapse of capitalism for, well, over a century now.<BR/><BR/>“Bollywood movies are almost all corny musicals, if I ain't mistaken. They need to expand their repertoire.”<BR/><BR/>My wife is Indian. You may not understand this but Indian movies are produced for Indian consumers. These are the style of movies many Indians love. There is more serious stuff too, but the mass audience prefers the singing and dancing. When my relatives are watching the films at home, they’ll often skip the dialogue and just watch the singing and dancing. This *is* what the people want. The producers don’t need to waste money on “focus groups,” they can keep churning out musical after musical and Indians will continue to love them.<BR/><BR/>The comment about nobody learning how to play the piano if they have "daily access" to television is simply silly. There have always been diversions from practicing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-29625371271332834522008-01-10T03:58:00.000-06:002008-01-10T03:58:00.000-06:00Overthrow the ruling classes, Renegade? Haven't yo...Overthrow the ruling classes, Renegade? Haven't you read The Brothers Karamazov? We humans need to be ruled otherwise we become unruly.<BR/><BR/>Cheers.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02798600572745255535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-4135225947952797252008-01-09T18:19:00.000-06:002008-01-09T18:19:00.000-06:00Hmm, and here I was thinking that all forms of art...Hmm, and here I was thinking that all forms of art and entertainment in its varying forms over the years was about being a "saleable commodity". <BR/><BR/>In my Art Economics 101 class we were taught that your art isn't worth anything until someone has paid something for it. And even then it's only worth what was paid for it - nothing more (until you're dead and famous). I'm not saying the whole Bollywood underworld mob problem is wonderful or normal or should continue....<BR/><BR/>Just that in the art world, the idea of "selling out" as it were, is nothing really new. For what its worth, even in non mob related art industries, every group has its share of vultures, waiting to prey on those who would like to be famous. Nothin' new under the sun.Anokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05675278947623136467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-71335476767730445732008-01-09T15:21:00.000-06:002008-01-09T15:21:00.000-06:00[ How about Somaliwood movies? ]Graeme -- That's g...[ How about Somaliwood movies? ]<BR/><BR/>Graeme -- That's getting too close to snuff flix, maybe, considering how things are in that sad and hungry country.<BR/><BR/>Love, C.Foxessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06754083123669916994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-2616091343780427902008-01-09T13:55:00.000-06:002008-01-09T13:55:00.000-06:00mim: missing some brain-cells? And yes, definitely...mim: missing some brain-cells? <BR/><BR/>And yes, definitely some NICE hooters on Aisha(my wife's hotter!!!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-12468805962016079612008-01-09T08:18:00.000-06:002008-01-09T08:18:00.000-06:00'G_D'???You moron. Don't you mean JEHOVAH/YAWEH - ...'G_D'???<BR/><BR/>You moron. Don't you mean JEHOVAH/YAWEH - the bastard blood-god of judaeo-christianity???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-30936804119754188452008-01-09T01:13:00.000-06:002008-01-09T01:13:00.000-06:00There's pictures of titties of every shape and siz...There's pictures of titties of every shape and size in magazines at the newsstand, for 8 dollars or less. <BR/><BR/>Viva capitalism.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-85660275601810544862008-01-08T22:55:00.000-06:002008-01-08T22:55:00.000-06:00This Sajawal Khan guy doesn't know anothing about ...This Sajawal Khan guy doesn't know anothing about capitalism, socialism or art. His piece is basically an unconvincing rant with little logic or coherence. We learn more about Sajawal Khan's old-fashioned moralistic prejudices than about Bollywood and Indian capitalism.soniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938174968325568608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-32222978736492426252008-01-08T21:59:00.000-06:002008-01-08T21:59:00.000-06:00In Grudrisse Marx says, “Production not only suppl...In Grudrisse Marx says, “Production not only supplies a material for the need, but it also supplies a need for the material… The object of art – like every other product – creates a public which is sensitive to art and enjoys beauty. Production thus not only creates an object for the subject, but also a subject for the object”. <BR/><BR/>So, it is quite vulgar to explain the production with people’s needs. One of my relatives is a script writer in television business and he has developed a lame excuse to vigorously create ridiculous TV series: “but people want to watch these”. As if people “really” want to watch the show about the predicaments between a biological mother and surrogate mother. (And surrogacy is not a common practice in Turkey). <BR/><BR/>Think about Dylan’s first appear on the stage with his electric guitar. He had aroused a bitter antagonism and resentment among his fans that obviously need and want straight-forward folk music. At the end, his product, object, has created its subject.<BR/><BR/>As far as I concern, Ducky, didn’t display any prejudice against property ownership, capitalism, rich people, etc. This rude criticism reminds the fantastic diagnosis of Ludwig Von Mises about anti-capitalist mentality: these guys are anti-capitalist because they are unsuccessful within our system. <BR/><BR/>Of course the rich have taste of art like any other people. This is not the problem at all. But market has no taste of art as long as the objects of art are not capable to fit its commodity form.Memet Çagatayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01840763698133544424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-3397093656628881302008-01-08T14:02:00.000-06:002008-01-08T14:02:00.000-06:00ren,Roman: reread what Ducky said.I did.. my comme...ren,<BR/><BR/><EM>Roman: reread what Ducky said.</EM><BR/><BR/>I did.. my comment stands. His bias against property ownership and the capitalist system in general taints his capability to form logical inferences. He would have us believe that the "rich" have no taste in art. Such a statement has no merit in fact.romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988548647887978919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-36928809755574958362008-01-08T11:21:00.000-06:002008-01-08T11:21:00.000-06:00Getting rid of standardization will merely decreas...Getting rid of standardization will merely decrease the amount of surplus value recieved through the division of labor.<BR/><BR/>Socialism. A plan for making people poorer... wasn't that my original point?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-2262390192281761152008-01-08T09:10:00.000-06:002008-01-08T09:10:00.000-06:00Re: art improving under socialism. What will defin...Re: art improving under socialism. What will definitely improve is people's access to art and opportunities to produce it. With the passing of corporate culture and its mania for standardisation, the aesthetic of the everyday will take hold. Out of the sheer quantity of art new qualities will emerge, taking it in directions we can scarcely dream of at the moment.<BR/><BR/>Sorry to come over a bit new-ageie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-71529485029443378152008-01-08T00:11:00.000-06:002008-01-08T00:11:00.000-06:00How about Somaliwood movies?How about Somaliwood movies?Graemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04230080850680753260noreply@blogger.com