tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post3991353805080352319..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Stratfor: Iran Returns to the Global StageFrank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-73244217283553926472008-11-19T09:51:00.000-06:002008-11-19T09:51:00.000-06:00Thanks Renegade. You see that word "militant" is w...Thanks Renegade. You see that word "militant" is what turns me off right away!<BR/><BR/>Anyways, One of the first tenets of the Iranian revolution was to "relieve the pain of the workers and distribute wealth equally." The state nationalized many of the existing industries and had the "workers" run them to the ground and once the business was no longer sustainable; the government reached out to the original owners of those businesses; asking them to come back to the helm!Najhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728668942925956610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-63983499555343316932008-11-19T01:34:00.000-06:002008-11-19T01:34:00.000-06:00Naj: This and this are published by my comrades in...Naj: <A HREF="http://militantmag1.blogfa.com/" REL="nofollow">This</A> and <A HREF="http://www.javaan.net/" REL="nofollow">this</A> are published by my comrades in Iran.<BR/><BR/>Beamish: I think any bombing is out of the equation for political reasons. The UK has been very vocal.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-77706954279050041202008-11-18T18:22:00.000-06:002008-11-18T18:22:00.000-06:00Renegade,My knowledge of communism is so limited. ...Renegade,<BR/>My knowledge of communism is so limited. And somehow; the members of different pseusdo/communist parties of/in Iran never managed to inspire any sympathy or curiosity in me.<BR/>I just developed my aversion a few years ago; when i noticed that after every literary or social gathering one or some of them (with typical Stalinist mustache) get up and yell and scream and whoever talking; condemning them for being bourgeois. I don't love the rich and the bourgeois; but I thought the communist behavioral trait was distasteful; and to some extent comical. <BR/>Anyways; I will follow your blog and hopefully discover a more refined version of communism than what i have seen in Iran.Najhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728668942925956610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-46834462112125433112008-11-18T01:28:00.000-06:002008-11-18T01:28:00.000-06:00Ren,The post has nothing to do with what could be....Ren,<BR/><BR/><I>The post has nothing to do with what could be. What is happening, is the US is opening up diplomatic relations with Iran, and Israel is toning down its rhetoric.</I><BR/><BR/>And Metallica went pop on their Black album. Things change. <BR/><BR/>All I'm saying is destroying Iran's nuclear facilities could prove more doable than persuading Russia to go along with US geopoliticking at the UN to achieve Keystone Cop monitoring and compliance aims set by the IAEA. Quite simply, Iran doesn't need to enrich uranium if its "peaceful nuclear energy" reactors are craters.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-53601593026736760052008-11-18T00:39:00.000-06:002008-11-18T00:39:00.000-06:00LOL. Just as I suspected. I ghot your name, Renega...LOL. Just as I suspected. I ghot your name, Renegade.Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-72850649603296308942008-11-18T00:20:00.000-06:002008-11-18T00:20:00.000-06:00Naj: The Communist Party in Israel gained 35% of t...Naj: The Communist Party in Israel gained 35% of the vote, in mayoral elections in Tel Aviv. That made my day.<BR/><BR/>Israel is the US's satellite.<BR/><BR/>Vigilante: Just spell my name correctly.<BR/><BR/>Bill Ayers's Weatherman days, was his rebellion against his parents. A rich kid, who returned to the fold. His politics are best described as temper tantrum politics.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-11204158575827307442008-11-17T19:54:00.000-06:002008-11-17T19:54:00.000-06:00I'm glad I found your site, Renegade Eye. I...I'm glad I found your site, Renegade Eye. I've been looking for an oracular authority which will categorically and definitively denounce Barack Obama as being an anti-communist. And his fellow traveler, Bill Ayers, too! Is this the place?<BR/><BR/>{be forewarned; this is for attribution & on the record; I'll be quoting you}Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-71067132634124971992008-11-17T16:24:00.000-06:002008-11-17T16:24:00.000-06:00WEll, Israel's beef with Iran is really over US-Ir...WEll, Israel's beef with Iran is really over US-Iran friendship; if Iran can stir America's $#!t; Israel may feel a bit out of job!Najhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728668942925956610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-36413505757913297402008-11-17T14:14:00.000-06:002008-11-17T14:14:00.000-06:00FJ: It is Bush's policy too. He is giving Obama r...FJ: It is Bush's policy too. He is giving Obama right cover.<BR/><BR/>Opening relations with Iran, may be part of Bush's legacy.<BR/><BR/>Beamish: The post has nothing to do with what could be. What is happening, is the US is opening up diplomatic relations with Iran, and Israel is toning down its rhetoric.<BR/><BR/>Vigilante: Thank you for visiting my blog.<BR/><BR/>Being from Minneapolis, I met your blog team member Colleen Rawley. I never believed an ex-FBI person, would throw themselves into activism.<BR/><BR/>I expect she'll wake up and notice Democrats are as imperialist as Republicans, if not more. She talked about the McCarthy era, without mentioning Robert Kennedy was McCarthy's helper.<BR/><BR/>Iran fills a void after Saddam was overthrown. In actuality Iran shares the US goals in Iraq, more than what is publicly acknowledged.<BR/><BR/>Israel will go along with America. Israel is the US's satellite.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-34953161790340263732008-11-17T12:51:00.000-06:002008-11-17T12:51:00.000-06:00If getting sh*t upon by Iranian diplomats and laug...If getting sh*t upon by Iranian diplomats and laughed at by our allies constitutes what Democrats would classify as a "warming" in international diplomatic relations, then be prepared for much more such "warming" in the future.<BR/><BR/>Like the half-frozen bird who lands in a cow patty and gets warmed up, best keep your mouths shut about it, lest some fox hear your cheerful chirping and eat you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-35897896183683265572008-11-16T22:58:00.000-06:002008-11-16T22:58:00.000-06:00Given unremitting Israeli ethnic cleansing on the...Given unremitting Israeli ethnic cleansing on the West Bank, I don't see Iran as a problem for the USA. We shouldn't consider that we have a dog in this fight. Iran is Israel's problem. They deserve each other.Vigilantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07640246609540057997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-32508018146719662822008-11-16T22:13:00.000-06:002008-11-16T22:13:00.000-06:00Ren,My point was that nothing bars the United Stat...Ren,<BR/><BR/>My point was that nothing bars the United States from acting without UN backing or authority. It may be a little too post-UNSCR 1441 for the world to start bitching about UN resolutions allegedly possessing meaningfulness.<BR/><BR/>I doubt Russia would do too much more than mumble if the US or Israel took out Iran's nuclear facilities. We don't need troops on the ground to level fixed targets at will.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-71929868432456922922008-11-16T01:02:00.000-06:002008-11-16T01:02:00.000-06:00Naj: I think the Iranian regime, would love a deal...Naj: I think the Iranian regime, would love a deal with the US. They never had a no negociation policy.<BR/><BR/>Israel will do what the US wants. US aid to Israel has been unchanged in years, at a fixed amount. It is in the arm sales business, which is more lucrative.<BR/><BR/>Hard to talk in the abstract about the MIC.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-9816678045500725072008-11-15T07:56:00.000-06:002008-11-15T07:56:00.000-06:00Renegade eye: this was an EXCELLENT and accurate ...Renegade eye:<BR/> this was an EXCELLENT and accurate re-cap.<BR/><BR/>Of course, keep in mind those who benefit from a war-cloud over Iran:<BR/><BR/>a- Iranian regime; as it gains power to control and silence voices of dissent; ALSO as it becomes richer by 150$ a barrel oil prices.<BR/><BR/>b- Israel; as it gains in military aids<BR/><BR/>c- Military Industry Complex; the apple of the eye of the american economy<BR/><BR/>History has many ways ... in deed ;)Najhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17728668942925956610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-61324908252442779302008-11-15T00:06:00.000-06:002008-11-15T00:06:00.000-06:00Beamish: What is talked about is already in motion...Beamish: What is talked about is already in motion. The miniconsulate will be open in Iran soon.<BR/><BR/>Tom: I'm sure you would.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-10303318436483549972008-11-14T19:46:00.000-06:002008-11-14T19:46:00.000-06:00I will meet with Ahmadinejad.I will meet with Ahmadinejad.Tom Clelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05601422364400383657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-73796989323622656322008-11-14T03:05:00.000-06:002008-11-14T03:05:00.000-06:00The fundamental flaw of this analysis is that it a...The fundamental flaw of this analysis is that it assumes nation states can't walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. <BR/><BR/>The United States supports Georgia against Russia. <BR/><BR/>The United States opposes Iranian development of nuclear weapons.<BR/><BR/>The UN Charter isn't bombproof. Otherwise everybody's umbrella would have a copy printed on them.(((Thought Criminal)))https://www.blogger.com/profile/17311656184275255223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-75075135796206173202008-11-14T01:26:00.000-06:002008-11-14T01:26:00.000-06:00WeezieLou: That's over my head.Troutsky: I think t...WeezieLou: That's over my head.<BR/><BR/>Troutsky: I think they want to meet. They want to be the first Islamic superpower.<BR/><BR/>Meeting is the first step.<BR/><BR/> R.E.II™: You should question why I keep posting ex-CIA analysts work.<BR/><BR/>Roman: The US has to be first, because they shut the door.<BR/><BR/>Read the post again. The US has no choice. Even Bush43 is facillitating Obama's talking to Iran.<BR/><BR/>Sonya: Saddam could have been overthrown from the inside. Iraq needed the proper leadership.<BR/><BR/>Maryam Namazie has written about the moderate Islamists.<BR/><BR/>Pagan: Talks are obviously related to talking to the Iranian rulers, through whatever surrogate.<BR/><BR/>Saddam was more secular, but more dictatorial.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-89706261812568441282008-11-13T22:46:00.000-06:002008-11-13T22:46:00.000-06:00The problem with Ahmadinajahd is that he is a pupp...The problem with Ahmadinajahd is that he is a puppet-a sock puppet. So much for a more "moderate" leadership emerging. The Shi'ite clerics are the true ruling class in Iran. They aren't going to change willingly. It would take a total collapse of their country and society to accomplish that, something resulting in the exact same kind of chaos that resulted during the immediate aftermath of the overthrow of Saddam. <BR/><BR/>There isn't that much difference in the two societies, except that Saddam's Iraq might have been nominally more progressive in certain ways.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-28153865346512962442008-11-13T22:21:00.000-06:002008-11-13T22:21:00.000-06:00Unlike Saddam's Iraq, whose totalitarian dictators...Unlike Saddam's Iraq, whose totalitarian dictatorship could have only been overthrown from the outside, Iran is an imperfect democracy and there is hope that a more moderate leadership will emerge, like it did under Khatami in the 1990's.soniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938174968325568608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-57655937854878769112008-11-13T16:58:00.000-06:002008-11-13T16:58:00.000-06:00There are many understandings in the way of histor...<EM>There are many understandings in the way of history.</EM><BR/><BR/>It takes two to tango! Serious discussions are able to initiated by either party. Why is it that most political pundits place the onus of "making the first move" on the USA or the "West". It is Iran who is clearly in violation of internationally recognized norms of behaviour. It is a fallacy of simple logic and common sense that Iran actually wants "talks" or to "negotiate". They are achieving their ends by just ignoring the rest of us. Their zeal to join the "nuclear" club is too important to them to let "negotiations" stand in the way. Time to take off the rose-colored glasses.romanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15988548647887978919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-71065773642592203222008-11-13T15:58:00.000-06:002008-11-13T15:58:00.000-06:00Ill put you down as the nuclear scientistIll put you down as the nuclear scientist?https://www.blogger.com/profile/01992276117548193938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-36219782158931042032008-11-13T10:38:00.000-06:002008-11-13T10:38:00.000-06:00It is reported that Iran tested a long range missl...It is reported that Iran tested a long range missle yesterday. They are ambitious and know how the game is played and where the oil lays. They may not want to meet without "pre-conditions".troutskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16020298501632120830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-80152531516450292182008-11-12T16:06:00.000-06:002008-11-12T16:06:00.000-06:00The assorted permutations if history have long fas...The assorted permutations if history have long fascinated me. Everything that happens has already happened once, and were not learned from in the ways that would have helped. just like the concept of "repetitian compulsion" in psychology, so it is with history.<BR/><BR/>thnks for the back story -WeezieLouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02682016939159540663noreply@blogger.com