tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post1239232986940421242..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Venezuela: Economic Crisis and Imperialist Attacks Pose New Challenges For The RevolutionFrank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger96125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-18350350707119171142009-10-06T10:51:01.551-05:002009-10-06T10:51:01.551-05:003 lions on my shirt!
jules rimet's still drea...3 lions on my shirt!<br /><br />jules rimet's still dreaming!<br /><br />the sentinel is a cunt!<br /><br />and he likes to argue!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-52587614354676392862009-09-27T11:23:53.123-05:002009-09-27T11:23:53.123-05:00And here is the demented fuckwit troll Hoffmann-gi...And here is the demented fuckwit troll Hoffmann-gill actually thinking he is getting away with his trolling here without notice and embracing the other troll Gertrude:<br /><br /><br />https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11234003&postID=5889709627025045224<br /><br />Whilst Gert is at his anti-Semitic hate again and being thoroughly reviled for it, with new gems such as “It’s such a wonderful little country, Israel. Truly a (B)light unto the nations…” others on the blog have read Hoffmann-gills comments in the link above and have his number too:<br /><br />“Gert, could you get Daniel Hoffmann-Gill to post over here? It would be top class entertainment to have two such insane cunts on show at once. Cheers.<br /><br /><br />Daniel’s latest performance here:”<br />“Wow, Gert is back and as mad and anti-Semitic as ever!<br /><br />I agree with Django, it would be great if he could bring his nutjob buddy Daniel Hoffmann-Gill over too; oh what a fest of crazyness that would be!...<br /><br />Go on Gert, get Daniel Hoffmann-Gill over here as one of your “band of pirates” so we can all have a real good laugh at your joint insanity!!”<br /><br /><br />http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/09/26/naivety-over-iran/<br /><br /><br />What a lovely pair of trolls they make, thoroughly mocked online for the obscene idiots they are!!!The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-45300619652968007862009-09-25T14:40:36.662-05:002009-09-25T14:40:36.662-05:003 lions on my shirt!
jules rimet's still drea...3 lions on my shirt!<br /><br />jules rimet's still dreaming!<br /><br />the sentinel is a cunt!<br /><br />and he likes to argue!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-2161363164794904062009-09-23T22:41:21.950-05:002009-09-23T22:41:21.950-05:00And here he is again: Another fellow troll of Gert...And here he is again: Another fellow troll of Gert's dimension: daniel hoffman-gill - aka "anonymous" and attempted ID spoofer.<br /><br />And here is just one of the latest reactions to his pathological hate trolling - flying the nasty, vindictive and ignorant PC flag so proudly as usual - on just the latest blog he has decided to hate troll on and fresh from just yesterday; under his own name strangely, after bizarrely being too cowardly to do it in his own name here - or could it because with the rules he insisted on yet cannot even remotely keep within himself?!!<br /><br /><br /><br />"Owners and monitors of this site.<br /><br />Please read the comments of Hoffmann -Gill # 36.<br /><br />This person has been thrown off from blogs because of hate AND perversion.<br />Sunny..you write that this is all about debate.<br /><br />Debate is great, it brings understanding.<br />However, Hoffmmann-Gill breeds hate and his language is vulgar..<br /><br />Please consider following the rules you set forth as it is good for all to learn from one another.<br /><br />This man is a perverted, hateful distraction. His words should not be printed.<br />This is to be a Liberal site, but this person..what ever he is, makes anyone who is a liberal look badly..very badly.<br /><br />He is a poor pathetic soul who needs help quite badly. Why give him a forum to speak on.<br />Trust me, you will find him elsewhere as well, and he is disgusting. He has been shut off many times and for good reason.<br /><br />Please take one moment and look him up…it is then your call.<br /><br />Colleen"<br /><br />http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/09/21/rupert-murdoch-and-fox-news-imperialism/The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-81711522031677345252009-09-23T17:40:55.711-05:002009-09-23T17:40:55.711-05:003 lions on my shirt!
jules rimet's still drea...3 lions on my shirt!<br /><br />jules rimet's still dreaming!<br /><br />the sentinel is a cunt!<br /><br />and he likes to argue!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-60715977141601321582009-09-19T16:11:55.822-05:002009-09-19T16:11:55.822-05:00Oh look, the cowards back!Oh look, the cowards back!The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-87952859679128761242009-09-19T15:33:02.527-05:002009-09-19T15:33:02.527-05:003 lions on my shirt!
jules rimet's still drea...3 lions on my shirt!<br /><br />jules rimet's still dreaming!<br /><br />the sentinel is a cunt!<br /><br />and he likes to argue!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-84285462727167172532009-09-17T16:30:46.073-05:002009-09-17T16:30:46.073-05:00Easy. We play Rochambeau and I go first. That sho...Easy. We play <a href="http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103724" rel="nofollow">Rochambeau</a> and I go first. That should free civilization's current grip on your mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-24921329317979562952009-09-17T15:53:51.082-05:002009-09-17T15:53:51.082-05:00LOL! I'm not a civilized man. I'm an ancie...LOL! I'm not a civilized man. I'm an ancient that can move between all three mental states at will. <br /><br />---------------------------<br /><br /> Whoa, Farmer, how is that done.<br />I see a chance to really save on beer money here.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-39542775808047660122009-09-17T12:03:15.239-05:002009-09-17T12:03:15.239-05:00"have the courtesy to consider mine closed to..."have the courtesy to consider mine closed to you also."<br /><br />That's around the 20th time you have invoked this, the last time being just a couple of weeks ago.<br /><br />I think it must be obvious by now, even to an idiot like yourself, that I have no interest at all in visiting your webrag and so this is just more hysterical posturing.<br /><br /><br />"Addressing you is like starting a war: one knows when it starts but not when or where it ends."<br /><br />Trying to dominate, control, defame, smear and discredit me is like starting a war; and it ends in your defeat.<br /><br /><br />"We've been wasting much of Ren's patience here, IMHO. Too much. This is dragging an otherwise fine blog into the mud."<br /><br />Back to your pathetic old see-through ingratiation attempt tactic - once again, you have brought it here, that's right, you alone through your incessant lies, smears, labels and attempts at mind control.<br /><br /><br />"Wherever you go, I imagine the scenario to be the same."<br /><br />That imagination of yours is a large part of your problem: It leads you to make up the most fantastic lies and the most depraved smears.<br /><br /><br />"Look at how deliberately you completely distorted my opinion on how to deal with the drugs problem: it's not just strawman upon strawman, it's strawman within strawman."<br /><br />I have done no such thing; people can read back over it and judge for themselves.<br /><br /><br />"You suffer from a bad case of literalism, an inability to read inter alea. This way you interpret what an opponent says exactly as it suits you and can always find fault with it. You're thus constantly attacking windmills in your own mind"<br /><br />Pure projection as pretty much every comment about you by the various people above demonstrates: Your consistent theme is to completely ignore your 'opponents' comments altogether and merely attack them personally, most often with your only weapons / standard toolkit of PC heretic labels.<br /><br /><br />"Context is alien to you, hence the endless internet links that are supposed to prove your position."<br /><br />I know that any evidence is irksome to your cult - especially of the irrefutable kind, but that's how normal honest people work: They back up their opinions with substance, with evidence. You are totally unable to do this, hence the scorn.<br /><br />I have told you time and time again, I beat you every time not because I am a genius but just because truth and reality are not on your side.<br /><br />They simply are not.<br /><br /><br />"Undoubtedly you'll want to see all this as a victory for you."<br /><br />Vindication, in that you are unable to back up your consistent vile lies and smears about me, yes. <br /><br />Vindication, in that you are unable to credibly deny the assorted other lies you routinely tell, yes.<br /><br /><br />"I'm now unsubscribing from this thread and won't be reading any more of your comments"<br /><br />The PC cultist refuses to have any heresy placed in front of him lest he must consider the merit of it.<br /><br />I think the third comment about you in the small sample I posted describes these cult dynamics "just like scientology, or the moonies, or the various fundamentalisms" beautifully and as a perfect summation of your mindset. Very insightful.<br /><br /><br />"All the best with any of your endeavours."<br /><br />And the worst of luck with yours. <br /><br />Everything you and your PC cult do, say and advocate does immense damage to my country and my people, and ultimately all people within its sphere.<br /><br /><br />"Bye."<br /><br />If only. <br /><br />And if only I had a pound every time I heard this hysterical departure swan song from you. In fact, the last time was only a couple of week ago. I be at least £2 richer this week!!!The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-13591020288060521042009-09-17T11:58:58.284-05:002009-09-17T11:58:58.284-05:00Jesus Christ!
Do the games, the bullshit and the ...Jesus Christ!<br /><br />Do the games, the bullshit and the hysteria never end with you?<br /><br />You make up a pack of lies to smear me, to debase me and discredit me; you tarnish me with the most obscene and hysterical labels for the same reason and you try every trick in the book to shout down and shut up everyone who dares dissent from your PC religion / cult and especially you personally - the self-appointed high priest of your cult - and when you realise all of it has become indefensible and fully exposed through sheer weight of evidence you try to assume some sort of controlled moral withdrawal?!!<br /><br />You are so full of shit it is awe inspiring!!!<br /><br /><br />"I've made up my mind last night not only not to read a single syllable of whatever you decide to print here or elsewhere and not to respond to it anymore either"<br /><br />Of course you have. <br /><br />I blow far too hard on your house of cards and expose your tactics and lies so easily for all to see.<br /><br />And as we can all see as well, I am far from alone in this. <br /><br />Many, many people have your number Gert and have succinctly summed up your raison d'être and methodology<br /><br /><br />"Have the courtesy to do the same with regards to me."<br /><br />Again with the mind control. You do what you want, that's up to you. I'll do what I want, that's up to me. You see how this works?<br /><br />If I see you spouting more fantasy and lies then I WILL say so, have no worries about that.<br /><br /><br />"Considering what you once called a 'free speech zone' (your blog) is now even closed to the public"<br /><br />That's right it was a free speech zone, open to the public for around 3 years and tolerant in the name of free speech- if, understandably, not entirely ecstatic - of the vast and endless reams of abuse, filth, lies, taunts, insults and labels you saw fit to heap on me on a daily basis - all without substance - and the various playmates you incited to visit all in tandem with assorted other cultist like yourself, all without, as you well know, one deletion or CM policy.<br /><br />That all ended recently when the abuse, filth, lies, taunts and insults turned to repeated physical threats and death threats against me and my family as well as the most depraved sexual insults imaginable; personally I couldn't give a fuck, I really couldn't, but I have a duty to my family to take threats against them seriously, assess and take measures if found to be real.<br /><br />And as I have already said, along with Daniel Hoffmann-Gill, I have reason to believe that you may have been behind one or two of the comments left.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-25934585074210067402009-09-17T09:43:06.875-05:002009-09-17T09:43:06.875-05:00Sentinel:
I've made up my mind last night not...Sentinel:<br /><br />I've made up my mind last night not only not to read a single syllable of whatever you decide to print here or elsewhere and not to respond to it anymore either. Have the courtesy to do the same with regards to me. Considering what you once called a 'free speech zone' (your blog) is now even closed to the public, have the courtesy to consider mine closed to you also.<br /><br />Addressing you is like starting a war: one knows when it starts but not when or where it ends. We've been wasting much of Ren's patience here, IMHO. Too much. This is dragging an otherwise fine blog into the mud.<br /><br />Wherever you go, I imagine the scenario to be the same. Look at how deliberately you completely distorted my opinion on how to deal with the drugs problem: it's not just strawman upon strawman, it's strawman <i>within</i> strawman. You suffer from a bad case of literalism, an inability to read <i>inter alea</i>. This way you interpret what an opponent says exactly as it suits you and can always find fault with it. You're thus constantly attacking windmills in your own mind.<br /><br />Context is alien to you, hence the endless internet links that are supposed to prove your position. <br /><br />Undoubtedly you'll want to see all this as a victory for you. Well, feel free... I'm now unsubscribing from this thread and won't be reading any more of your comments. Someone has to put an end to this and I doing it. Now.<br /><br />All the best with any of your endeavours.<br /><br />Bye.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-11650924054376951852009-09-16T16:44:18.132-05:002009-09-16T16:44:18.132-05:00Gert
“But you didn't answer any of my questio...Gert<br /><br />“But you didn't answer any of my questions. You used other peoples posts to rant and then call me names. Try to focus…<br /><br />Hint: It would probably be effective to actually read the posts of the person you are calling names.”<br /><br /><br /><br />“Gert<br /><br />So far you've called me: 1)complete and partisan idiot, 2)You're a crackpot, 3)racist imbecile. <br /><br />What you haven't done is to offer any kind of reasoned debate. <br /><br />I don't see why this sort of discourse is your only recourse. Surely, a person who holds themself in the regard you seem to hold yourself can do better than to emulate a feces throwing monkey.”<br /><br />http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/11/jews_went_heavi.html<br /><br /><br /><br />“Gert, your long-winded ad-hominem was most unfortunate. No matter how many times you close your eyes, cover your ears, and scream "religio-fascist!" it won't cover for your conspicuous lack of substantive responses…”<br /><br /><br />“Gert, you've done what I suggested you not do: resert to insults. I mean, what's this whole thing here for? Insulting people to try and make yourself feel better? People who are sure of themselves are not easily insulted and tend to turn it back on you. That's what happened here. Did you achieve anything?-No.”<br /><br />http://madzionist.blogspot.com/2006/12/deconstructing-leftist.htmlThe Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-11807125781454687712009-09-16T16:44:14.427-05:002009-09-16T16:44:14.427-05:00High brow nonsense not applicable to modern societ...<i>High brow nonsense not applicable to modern society.</i><br /><br />That's why the Right rules, while the Left just drools!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-28726186227686400782009-09-16T16:43:35.547-05:002009-09-16T16:43:35.547-05:00Anyhow, here are some more 'folks' who hav...Anyhow, here are some more 'folks' who have thoroughly seen through you, your ideology, your tactics and your anti-Semitism and exposed it - and you for the troll you are - in such a beautifully succinct way I will defer to them in this small sample:<br /><br /><br />“many of you may already be familiar with Gert, as he has had many hostile run-ins with others in this blogging community the past year…<br /><br />Gert's signature characteristic is his unofficial title as "King of the Ad-hominem", as anytime he is challenged by an opposing view he immediately becomes hysterical and starts running off endless streams of personal insults, childish name-calling, and obscenity-laced slurs dripping with anti-Semitism.”<br /><br />http://madzionist.blogspot.com/2006_12_01_archive.html<br /><br /><br />“Are you suggesting that Jews should be banned from living in Judea because they are Jewish? Are you even remotely aware of how anti-Semitic that is? <br /><br />Jews have the right to live nearly anywhere in the world, but you say the one place where Jews must be forbidden to live is Judea??”<br /><br />http://madzionist.blogspot.com/2008/11/olmert-to-release-another-250.html<br /><br /><br />“Well, Gert, we may be pathetic, but at least we read what we're commenting on before hurling insults, unlike yourself.<br /><br />I don't think you even understand the issues here. I don't think you have any philosophical point of view on the subject, Gert. You're just another cultist, trained to point at heretics and chant slogans, my friend. You see a trigger, your mouth opens, out comes the pre-programmed denunciation.<br /><br />Yes, your kind of "liberalism" (an offence to the meaning of the world "liberal" is a cult. Just like scientology, or the moonies, or the various fundamentalisms. You're trained not to think for yourself, to argue always by authority, to cut yourself off from non-believers, only venturing among them to cause dismay or to try to proselytise. And your only weapon, devoid as you are of logical support for your belief system, is to shout the heretic down. Condemn her with a word. "Racist!" you shout, and the heretic is cast out.<br /><br />And under it all, you're terrified that you may be wrong. You pour over your pamphlets and your websites, bolstering your beliefs like somebody squinting at the quaran before beating his wife. But you don't think about anything. You never question what you beleive (for fear you may come to doubt it). And as we see, you don't even bother to consider the heretics' words before condemning them.<br /><br />Oooh, we have "racist tendencies". But strangely, ye who would condemn every white person on the planet, even the unborn are completely devoid of racism.<br /><br />Be daring, Gert. Do something you've never dared to do before. Consider and analyse your own beliefs and dare, just for a second, to consider that you may be wrong.”<br /><br />http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2007/11/the_word_racist.htmlThe Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-72866295936692552832009-09-16T16:42:05.801-05:002009-09-16T16:42:05.801-05:00"I never used Nazi terminology with respects ..."I never used Nazi terminology with respects to Zionists (or Jews). Never ever."<br /><br />Yes you have. You wrote an entire post about it calling them the "new herrenvok" for a start.<br /><br /><br />"Harry's Place systematically tars everyone who disagrees with them on I-P as 'Nazis', 'neo-Nazis', 'Far Right'..."<br /><br />Its not just the dozens of people there that have fully exposed you for who you are though, now is it?<br /><br />As we shall see.<br /><br /><br />"I consider you Far Right. I can't see how anyone can disagree with that."<br /><br />As we shall see, you consider everyone who disagrees with you as far right.<br /><br /><br />"You adhere to Racial Theory, and surprise, surprise, find fault with all non-white peoples, especially immigrants. To me that's racist"<br /><br />Again, as we shall see everyone who disagrees with you is "racist."<br /><br /><br />"You've at least more than just dabbled in Holocaust revisionism and non-political anti-Semitism. Traces of that are all over the Internet."<br /><br />Then post some proof then..<br /><br /><br />"Funny how you've now closed your own blog: it'd be veritable treasure hunt"<br /><br />I closed it mainly because I was getting non-stop threats and perverted sexual abuse akin to the ones featured a couple of threads back from the likes of Daniel Hoffmann-Gill and, quite possibly you.<br /><br />I was collecting the evidence (I hold a CHFI qualification), and considering whether to report it to the police, technically attack (hack) the posters, or... or just leave it.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-26987061055070228582009-09-16T16:40:25.633-05:002009-09-16T16:40:25.633-05:00"Complete distortion. I was a conscript, neve..."Complete distortion. I was a conscript, never said otherwise."<br /><br />Start off on a lie. Why not? Its how you intend to go on.<br /><br />This is what you actually said:<br /><br />"BTW, I did active service (military, assuming that's what you're referring to)."<br /><br /><br />"Are people who haven't seen active service inferior to you? Active service gives you privileges? Superior insights?"<br /><br />People that lie about it are grossly inferior. <br /><br />But yes, having volunteered for service and having seen much active service I have more right then most to comment on my own country without being labelled as some sort of hate filled nazi by a Belgian like you who was forced to serve his own country.<br /><br /><br />"Dishonest. You're not a holocaust denier and I never said so. I specifically used the term 'revisionist'. Minimiser may be a better term."<br /><br />Another lie:<br /><br />On the same thread you claimed to have seen active service you also had this to say about me:<br /><br />"You're a racist, an anti-Semite, a Holocaust denier, a homophobe and an obtuse thug to boot..".<br /><br /><br />"You claimed many had died because of starvation or being worked to death, as if that's not part of the Holocaust."<br /><br />Many were worked to death and starved; you are saying thats not part of the holocaust, not me.<br /><br /><br />"You claimed we don't know the numbers: but in reality we have very good estimates."<br /><br />"We" again is it? Are "we" this time?<br /><br />Again, I stated facts such as these:<br /><br />"For many years, a memorial plaque placed at the camp by the Soviet authorities stated that 4 million people had been murdered at Auschwitz. The government of the People's Republic of Poland also supported this figure. In the west, this figure was accepted, but some historians had their doubts.[2] After the collapse of the Communist government in 1989, the plaque was removed and the official death toll given as 1.1 million."<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp#Death_toll<br /><br /><br />"You claimed you'd seen gas chambers with 'Made in France' on them. Why, to what effect? What are you trying to prove?"<br /><br /><br />If you had actually been to Auschwitz you would know that to be a fact; to what effect? Because its true! What was I trying to prove? I was stating a fact.<br /><br /><br />"The gas chamber at Auschwitz I was reconstructed after the war as a memorial"<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_chamber#Nazi_Germany<br /><br /><br />"You utterly ridiculed Deborah Lipstadt: how disgustingly low can one stoop?"<br /><br />I have no idea who she is - but you talk about "how disgustingly low can one stoop" - try your pedophila fantasies that you use on your political opponents for a start.<br /><br /><br />"It went much beyond that, BTW."<br /><br />How about some proof then? <br /><br /><br />"Sure, these people really sound like objective sources to me... A real bunch of truth-tellers. A bit like hearing the truth about Apartheid from a former supporter of that regime..."<br /><br />They told me what they did and what they saw and they didn't hold back. They were both still unreserved Nazis.<br /><br />Besides that I lived in Germany for years and met many, many people from that era and have been in a lot of the sites associated with it.<br /><br /><br />"Truth is you dabbled with Nazism (you said so elsewhere), obviously some of it stuck."<br /><br />Another (unsubstantiated) lie.<br /><br />I have never "dabbled with Nazism" nor have I ever said any such thing. <br /><br /><br />"I have. Several times. As regards the sexual taunt, have the honesty to dig up the link again and publish the three comments that preceded it: mine was a reaction to IsraeliNurse's. I was taunted and I retorted. As you very well know."<br /><br />You love sexual taunts though don't you?<br /><br />But you still haven't answered the question:<br /><br />Who in their right mind would add the racial taunt of “Jewish” in front of a sexual taunt about “tits”? What difference would it make about the ethnicity of the owner of these “tits”?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-33007117206001046352009-09-16T15:30:07.730-05:002009-09-16T15:30:07.730-05:00Sent:
"So you fully recognise that hard drug...Sent:<br /><br /><i>"So you fully recognise that hard drugs are extremely destructive but you still want full legal access to them for everyone anyway?"</i><br /><br />You still don't get it. I haven't recognised that "hard drugs are extremely destructive", quite the opposite. Most of the harm comes from artificially high street prices, forcing users into criminality. THAT's what would happen to my daughter. The current system is broken. Period.<br /><br /><i>"But aside from your politically motivated lies, what about your previous claims to hae been in active service?"</i><br /><br />Complete distortion. I was a conscript, never said otherwise. I was stationed in Germany, as an artillery gunner (Soest 6th Artillery Battalion, 155 mm). I took part in major Nato exercises, including with US troops. Never claimed otherwise.<br /><br />Are people who haven't seen active service inferior to you? Active service gives you privileges? Superior insights?<br /><br /><i>"But tell me, why is it just now "revisionism"? Before you claimed it was "denial"?"</i><br /><br />Dishonest. You're not a holocaust denier and I never said so. I <i>specifically</i> used the term 'revisionist'. Minimiser may be a better term.<br /><br />You claimed many had died because of starvation or being worked to death, as if that's not part of the Holocaust.<br /><br />You claimed we don't know the numbers: but in reality we have very good estimates.<br /><br />You claimed you'd seen gas chambers with 'Made in France' on them. Why, to what effect? What are you trying to prove?<br /><br />You utterly ridiculed Deborah Lipstadt: how disgustingly low can one stoop?<br /><br />It went much beyond that, BTW.<br /><br /><b><i>"The grandparents of a German girl I was engaged to were both in organisations directly linked with it, one was in the SS the other in the Gestapo. I know better then most first hand the events and opinion of the day."</i></b><br /><br />Sure, these people really sound like objective sources to me... A real bunch of truth-tellers. A bit like hearing the truth about Apartheid from a former supporter of that regime...<br /><br />Truth is you dabbled with Nazism (you said so elsewhere), obviously some of it stuck.<br /><br /><i>"And you still haven't answered this question yet:<br /><br />Who in their right mind would add the racial taunt of “Jewish” in front of a sexual taunt about “tits”? What difference would it make about the ethnicity of the owner of these “tits”? Who would use Nazi terminology to refer to the state born out of the holocaust and its people?"</i><br /><br />I have. Several times. As regards the sexual taunt, have the honesty to dig up the link again and publish the three comments that preceded it: mine was a reaction to IsraeliNurse's. I was taunted and I retorted. As you very well know.<br /><br />I never used Nazi terminology with respects to Zionists (or Jews). Never ever. Zionutsies, yes, nothing more. I co-wrote a post titled 'Why Israelis aren't Nazis' (look it up on my blog). And Herrenvolk, yes. Well, the colonisers of Palestine behave indeed like that, as all colonisers do.<br /><br />Harry's Place systematically tars everyone who disagrees with them on I-P as 'Nazis', 'neo-Nazis', 'Far Right' (funny that, most Zionists are firmly on the Right), 'anti-semite' and assorted terms. Rather rich coming from a clique riddled with racists...<br /><br />With regards to you, here's the extent of my sins:<br /><br />I consider you Far Right. I can't see how anyone can disagree with that.<br /><br />You adhere to Racial Theory, and surprise, surprise, find fault with all non-white peoples, especially immigrants. To me that's racist.<br /><br />You've at least more than just dabbled in Holocaust revisionism and non-political anti-Semitism. Traces of that are all over the Internet. Funny how you've now closed your own blog: it'd be veritable treasure hunt, as some of the comment boxes I've found testify.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-63837634271581185272009-09-16T14:35:03.095-05:002009-09-16T14:35:03.095-05:00And you still haven't answered this question y...And you still haven't answered this question yet:<br /><br />Who in their right mind would add the racial taunt of “Jewish” in front of a sexual taunt about “tits”? What difference would it make about the ethnicity of the owner of these “tits”? Who would use Nazi terminology to refer to the state born out of the holocaust and its people? <br /><br />You have been picked up on that and more by dozens and thoroughly reviled for it - can you really not see why people think you are a racist, anti-Semitic sexual deviant?<br /><br /><br />For someone who puts himself so high up on the PC pedestal and considers himself a guru and an infallible PC judge, here is a very small selection of what many people really think of you:<br /><br /><br />“On the contrary far-right nutters, like Gert, need their posts saved and replayed to remind others what nasty racist filth they truly are.<br /><br />Gert, like most Jew obsessed cranks, lets his contempt for Jews seep out after a while, sure enough he’ll try to hide it when he can, but such filth comes out eventually and reveals his underlying neurosis.<br /><br />Just give him a bit of time and Gert will do a David Irving star turn!”<br /><br /><br />“Gert,<br /><br />Do me a favour, FUCK off.<br /><br />I have NO time for Far Righters like you. Clear enough?<br /><br />Now FUCK off.”<br /><br />http://modernityblog.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/holocaust-denier-in-geneva/<br /><br /><br /><br />“And by the way, instead of whimpering that when you called Israelis “herrenvolk” you didn’t mean to imply they were Nazis, why not look inward and consider why you made that particular comparison. From reading your posts in this thread and others, the answer is quite clear, as you have consistently referred to Israelis/Zionists as nazis (zionazis, zionutzies, etc. etc. ad nauseam).”<br /><br /><br />“So is Gert, another disgusting specimen who is quite openly calling Israel “Nazis”.”<br /><br />http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/05/07/%E2%80%9Cseven-jewish-children%E2%80%9D-an-incitement-to-hatred/<br /><br /><br />“Gert: I don’t assume nothing for the sake of argument with you, I don’t argue with Holocaust-baiters. Once you’ve used the phrase Herrenvolk in reference to Jews, you lost any right to civilised argument.”<br /><br />http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/05/09/penalty-points-on-a-poetic-licence/The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-79807094726274764582009-09-16T14:33:28.188-05:002009-09-16T14:33:28.188-05:00"There's more to come: on your (past?) Ho..."There's more to come: on your (past?) Holocaust revisionism for instance."<br /><br />And I have plenty more of the racist, anti-Semitic filth you have pedalled online and the outraged reaction to it by dozens if not hundreds of people who consider you to be "racist filth" "a far right nutter" and a "crank"<br /><br />But tell me, why is it just now "revisionism"? Before you claimed it was "denial"?<br /><br />Go ahead, quote away - I would be most happy to back up everything I have ever said on anything - and it would be quite easy because I never say anything without evidence in the first place.<br /><br />There has been no "revisionism" from me; just pointed facts. As I told you a few weeks ago when you tried to pull this same stunt (a stunt that always backfires)<br /><br /><br />"You chose to perceive what has been said in that fashion, and it is hardly surprising that you choose to do so, but again in your own words "Does the allegation make it true?" <br /><br />I am fully aware of the fact the Jews were murdered wholesale by the Nazis, more then most I would say having been based in Germany for years in the army (including Hohne, directly opposite Bergen-Belsen, for around 2 years) and having met some of those who were involved in it. The grandparents of a German girl I was engaged to were both in organisations directly linked with it, one was in the SS the other in the Gestapo. I know better then most first hand the events and opinion of the day.<br /><br />As with all historical accounts, nothing is 100% true nor infallible and I have challenged elements such as the Nazis converting humans into soap - something even the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and Simon Wiesenthal Center now acknowledge was untrue and didn't happen, calling it a mix of "cruel rumours" and a throwback to"French propaganda from the First World War."<br /><br />http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/soap.html<br /><br />If you want to take from that anything other then what it is, that's your problem.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-46638545223502689992009-09-16T14:33:02.921-05:002009-09-16T14:33:02.921-05:00And so you want to come back to your favourite arg...And so you want to come back to your favourite argumentum ad honimen again in lieu? <br /><br />Fine by me.<br /><br /><br />"And since as you keep calling me a liar"<br /><br />You are a liar. And a troll.<br /><br />And a pathological one at that, like every PC fanatic out there. <br /><br />I have proved it time and time again and I proved in the previous thread that you are a liar that keeps repeating the same lies and a troll who uses every trick in the book to try and shut people up that you disagree with.<br /><br />But aside from your politically motivated lies, what about your previous claims to have been in active service? When it turns out that you had never seen active service in your life; just a poxy exercise in West Germany that you had been made to do as a Belgian conscript - you didn't even volunteer to serve your country, you had to be forced. <br /><br />The lies just pour out of you as a matter of course.<br /><br /><br />"I disagree with BEAJ a lot but I agree with him on one thing: you still belong in his gallery of INTERNET CIRCUS FREAKS"<br /><br />I'm really not sure what you think you have achieved with that one, linking to a poxy blog run by a narcarcistic deviant idiot on par with yourself. I ripped apart him and his bullshit and you and yours along with the other sheeple that piped in many times. It was easy.<br /><br />But you really do enjoy the dehumanising smears like "freak" don't you? Its your life blood.<br /><br />Along with your pedophile mindset that leads you to be fantasising online about the sexual abuse of children and applying the twisted incestuous fantasy to those who dare to disagree with you.<br /><br />I said it before and I meant it: I genuinely fear for your daughter, being around such a twisted piece of work like you, and I am far from alone on that, as you well know.<br /><br /><br />"I suggest folk here have a look at some of the comments you made in the past on Bacon Eating Atheist's blog."<br /><br />So do I - there are some very good examples there of how I use reason and evidence to put forward my case whilst my 'opponents' use the most foul and depraved abuse instead, with you pretty much as the most notable example of filth.<br /><br />You used to do the same trolling on my blog: Non-stop filth, abuse, attempts to shut me up on my own blog(!) and even telling me "this thread is finished"!!!<br /><br />And as I have said many times to you: Who do you think you are?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-59722160696967373602009-09-16T14:28:47.802-05:002009-09-16T14:28:47.802-05:00"If it's so widespread how come we're..."If it's so widespread how come we're not surrounded by paranoiacs behaving anti-socially?"<br /><br />It is that widespread; the study has proved it.<br /><br />You are wrong again; get over it.<br /><br />But interestingly you now concede that cocaine DOES induce paranoia and antisocial behaviour.<br /><br /><br /><br />"No, but I can predict."<br /><br />No you cant; you can pull things out of your arse and call them fact.<br /><br /><br />"Ever talked to a heroin or crack cocaine user? I have. "<br /><br />Ever lived in the same flat as an additct? I have, twice.<br /><br />Spent a large part of your life living around them? I have.<br /><br />Crack use causes temporary and permanent psychotic episodes resulting in extreme violence; it almost always induces paranoid behaviour and an erosion of mental capacity whilst heroin does this, but more profoundly renders the addicts moral systems completely defunct. They will and do, quite literally, rob their own grandmothers. Whereas cocaine not only erodes mental capacity and can induce psychosis it always ends in extreme paranoia.<br /><br /><br />"I don't (another cheap attempt at point scoring by you)."<br /><br />You did. And as I explained to you in detail, it is the actual effects of the drugs themselves that are the issue.<br /><br /><br />"She already has that choice"<br /><br />Be a bit hard in the all white, safe virtually crime free seaside town you have picked to hide in whilst plotting your PC mayhem for everyone else.<br /><br />Why not legalise it in your house and provide them for her to use if she wants? Whats the harm in that?<br /><br /><br />"I'm pretty sure my daughter will make the same choice. If she doesn't, she's likely to have her life ruined."<br /><br />So you fully recognise that hard drugs are extremely destructive but you still want full legal access to them for everyone anyway?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-87403401218566669682009-09-16T13:28:05.613-05:002009-09-16T13:28:05.613-05:00Sentinel:
And since as you keep calling me a liar...Sentinel:<br /><br />And since as you keep calling me a liar, I suggest folk here have a look at some of the comments you made in the past on <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=the+sentinel+%2BBEAJ&ei=nyqxSvqsNIWj4QbflO2sCg&sa=X&oi=stemming_tip&ct=title&fp=ad2323e5fb20d4b7" rel="nofollow">Bacon Eating Atheist's blog</a>.<br />Choose your own favourites by means of the Google blurbs (some more on page 2 as well).<br /><br />There's more to come: on your (past?) Holocaust revisionism for instance.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-45196289824597401912009-09-16T12:50:45.148-05:002009-09-16T12:50:45.148-05:00Sent:
"The bottom line is that 99% of the no...Sent:<br /><br /><i>"The bottom line is that 99% of the notes had traces of cocaine on them because cocaine is so wide spread."</i><br /><br />If it's so widespread how come we're not surrounded by paranoiacs behaving anti-socially?<br /><br />Simple: it's not that widespread at all and sensible users don't suffer much, if any, consequences.<br /><br /><i>"And you don't know what will happen if all hard drugs were legalised; you couldn't possibly know. You are making it up as you go along."</i><br /><br />No, but I can predict. And society can manage the worst outcomes. Today we have a terrible outcome. The no-go areas about which you (rightly) complain wouldn't exist if there weren't high-stakes turf wars between law enforcement and gangs, as well as between gangs. Where illegal and huge amounts of money can be earned, high risk taking gangsters move in. Even an imbecile understands that.<br /><br /><i>"They are extremely powerful psychoactive drugs, which is kind of the whole point to people that take them."</i><br /><br />Ever talked to a heroin or crack cocaine user? I have. Neither induce anything but a sense of deep pain-free well-being. Complete sedition. Oblivion. Nirvana. Debilitating in a sense but not conducive to anti-social behaviour at all.<br /><br />Cocaine is an upper that can lower inhibitions, increase mental activity and like alcohol can lead to violent behaviour. Much depends on circumstances and dosage though.<br /><br /><i>"For you to compare tobacco to crack is laughable and indicative of your out-of-reality take."</i><br /><br />I don't (another cheap attempt at point scoring by you). What I'm saying is that if you make tobacco illegal, you have all the problems of smuggling, illegal use, costly law enforcement, turf wars, desperate addicts etc etc on your hands, like any prohibition of substances does.<br /><br /><i>"But I tell you what, yet again, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and bring home a crack pipe, a skag needle and a some crystals and leave them on your kitchen table for your daughter to have the 'free choice' you advocate for others?"</i><br /><br />She already has that choice: despite the punitive approach, drugs are widely available. They are to me too: I choose not to use them. I'm pretty sure my daughter will make the same choice. If she doesn't, she's likely to have her life ruined.<br /><br /><i>"Yeah FJ you're thinking all wrong. Just listen to Gert and he will tell you how you should be thinking. His way."</i><br /><br />Feeble and paranoid. Farmer's got his opinion, I've got mine, you've got yours. Simple.<br /><br />I disagree with BEAJ a lot but I agree with him on one thing: you still belong in his gallery of <a href="http://judeophobewatch.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"> INTERNET CIRCUS FREAKS</a>Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-56969455485432152062009-09-16T10:46:27.780-05:002009-09-16T10:46:27.780-05:00"The study also states clearly"
Yip - I..."The study also states clearly"<br /><br />Yip - I just knew you would have to try and rip apart the study rather then just accept facts that show your premise to be entirely false. (Although you have now removed your contemptuous quotation marks from the word study.)<br /><br />The bottom line is that 99% of the notes had traces of cocaine on them because cocaine is so wide spread. That is how it got onto 99% of the notes in the first place.<br /><br />That this is the result of this study is obvious to anyone with even an ounce of common sense, honesty and integrity. <br /><br />And the study in Spain found on the notes that "each one carried an average of 25.18 micrograms of cocaine" with 94% of their notes contaminated with traces of cocaine; and 90% in the US and 85% in Canada.<br /><br />Face it, you are wrong.<br /><br />You are wrong on an entrenched part of your argument - that you were so sure about you thought evidence to the contrary was "fantastical rubbish" - that cocaine is a rare and rich mans drug when clearly it, like I said, it is awash. And so is ecstasy, and always has been.<br /><br /><br /><br />"Sent starts from a false premise"<br /><br />Quite obviously you do. Clearly.<br /><br />And you don't know what will happen if all hard drugs were legalised; you couldn't possibly know. You are making it up as you go along.<br /><br />Whereas I do know what is happening when drugs are still under some sort of control, and the most likely, logical conclusion is that will only get much worse.<br /><br /><br />"('drugs make you anti-social" - they don't: that's a side effect of the illegality, abolish tobacco and tomorrow you've got huge tobacco crime on your hands)"<br /><br />Like I have said (many times), you don't live in the real world. <br /><br />I know there are no crack dens or heroin and meth estates in that all white, safe little seaside town you hide in whilst plotting PC mayhem for the rest of us, but I can assure you that crack, meth and heroin THEMSELVES elicit the most antisocial behaviour. They are extremely powerful psychoactive drugs, which is kind of the whole point to people that take them.<br /><br />For you to compare tobacco to crack is laughable and indicative of your out-of-reality take.<br /><br />Have you ever been around crack, meth and heroin in your life? Let alone having lived in amongst it?<br /><br />But I tell you what, yet again, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and bring home a crack pipe, a skag needle and a some crystals and leave them on your kitchen table for your daughter to have the 'free choice' you advocate for others? <br /><br />Lets see if she would like to take them, what the results will be and lets see just how impressed her mother will be?<br /><br /><br /><br />"FJ:You're framing this in the wrong terms."<br /><br />Yeah FJ you're thinking all wrong. Just listen to Gert and he will tell you how you should be thinking. His way.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.com