tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post6634549631754434251..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Little Ashes (2008)***: Federico Garcia Lorca and Salvador Dali Were An ItemFrank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-49535747140493911692011-01-21T00:57:24.591-06:002011-01-21T00:57:24.591-06:00You are a competent writer man…great way to put do...You are a competent writer man…great way to put down your thoughts on a serious subject like this. For the first time I could understand what the topic meant. All thanks to you mate!!!Kamagrahttp://www.samrx.com/buy-kamagra.aspxnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-76145023652717744392010-10-06T15:27:32.144-05:002010-10-06T15:27:32.144-05:00Well, if it comes from Dali, I will possibly like ...Well, if it comes from Dali, I will possibly like it. Maybe FAderico García Lorca is not my favorite writer, but still, I really enjoyed the poem.Kamagra Jellyhttp://www.xlpharmacy.com/kamagra/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-78020497101217422592009-11-16T17:55:15.350-06:002009-11-16T17:55:15.350-06:00via this movie "Little Ashes" I have gai...via this movie "Little Ashes" I have gained an interest in both Dali and Lorca. From the bit of research I have done, I believe that Dali simply refused to be identified as anything but Dali-nian. He had a vision of himself and the world that he felt he couldn't fit in anywhere. Once he found himself being placed in a mold or had boundaries attached he adapted and changed to detach himself from it and prevent conforming to anyones expectations artistically, socially, and especially politically.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-43679419344692897552009-06-11T21:53:44.111-05:002009-06-11T21:53:44.111-05:00Two words for you, PT. Socialist Realism, or in th...Two words for you, PT. Socialist Realism, or in this case... socialist surrealism.<br />You use "Socialist Surrealism" as a tool to promote your point of view and further your political agenda... and at the same time use "Socialist Surrealism" as a hammer to ridicule your enemy and his values with.<a href="http://www.bestmishu.com" rel="nofollow">好秘书</a> <a href="http://www.5ipifu.com" rel="nofollow">我爱皮肤</a> <a href="http://www.cngongwen.com" rel="nofollow">中国公文网</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-48742360183533508322009-06-11T14:40:48.807-05:002009-06-11T14:40:48.807-05:00Kinda makes you wonder just how America became the...Kinda makes you wonder just how America became the world's dominant culture, <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/10/17/051017crat_atlarge" rel="nofollow">doesn't it</a>?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-24192393611609748872009-06-11T14:18:41.302-05:002009-06-11T14:18:41.302-05:00There is "generation" from opposites, PT...There is "generation" from opposites, PT. That's why the capitalist system works so well. We're not locked into promoting and unquestionably following the daily pronouncements of the Obamatrons in the daily press briefing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-14309697239886074712009-06-11T14:12:39.996-05:002009-06-11T14:12:39.996-05:00Rothko, anyone?<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstract_expressionism" rel="nofollow">Rothko</a>, anyone?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-61426421450725244202009-06-11T14:05:26.474-05:002009-06-11T14:05:26.474-05:00The CIA, through Piet Mondrian and Abstract Expres...The CIA, through Piet Mondrian and Abstract Expressionism, helped lead this lemming-like march of artists back into the Sea of Nihilism from which it had originated (Dada).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-52501903378181389072009-06-11T14:01:03.410-05:002009-06-11T14:01:03.410-05:00The Dada-ists started as a group of people who HAT...The Dada-ists started as a group of people who HATED -ISMs because of the death and destruction of WWI. But like any "good" thing, it grew into its' opposite.<br /><br />ps - and notice in the article linked to above that CONSTRUCTIVISM was the art movement most influenced by the Dada-ists. It should come as no surprise that it was in the USSR that Constructivism, and later Social Realism had their origins.<br /><br />The CIA funded the Jackson Pollacks of the world to KILL this kind of politically motivated art.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-39988869494790145932009-06-11T13:55:53.342-05:002009-06-11T13:55:53.342-05:00The DADA MOVEMENT was a non-movement. Usurped by ...The DADA MOVEMENT was a <a href="http://arthistory.about.com/cs/arthistory10one/a/dada.htm" rel="nofollow">non-movement</a>. Usurped by the commies, they became dedicated to promoting the worst and most totalitarian -ISM the world has ever known. commun-ISM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-26400588307822969692009-06-11T13:52:51.152-05:002009-06-11T13:52:51.152-05:00FJ, I just kind of see the point, because I can id...FJ, I just kind of see the point, because I can identify with it. For example, If I were to start a pagan group, or a coven, I would want like-minded pagans who believed in the things I believed in. I wouldn't want a bunch of ultra-liberal tree-huggers agitating against Gorebal Warming, radical feminazis and radical leftist gay activists, etc.<br /><br />I would want to keep the coven free from those types of influences. Hell, there's enough of those types, if that's what I wanted I'd just go join one.<br /><br />It was just a little daunting trying to apply that principle to the art world though. <br /><br />And I still think it could be beneficial to an artistic group to allow dissenting views, whereas in other types of groups it could and more often than not would be at least a disruptive influence that would undermine what the goals of the group.<br /> <br />In a surrealist artistic group, I would imagine that flow of energy would actually inspire all the artists to greater heights by providing a catalyst for opposing creative expressions, if that makes any sense.<br /><br />I guess its hard for me to imagine a group of artists and their artwork-no matter how good it is-inspiring great numbers of people to communism, or to be against it, or to give it any thought whatsoever as far as that goes.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-79795403125224314182009-06-11T13:45:56.766-05:002009-06-11T13:45:56.766-05:00FJ we are talking about VOLUNTARY GROUPS
Kinda li...<i>FJ we are talking about VOLUNTARY GROUPS</i><br /><br />Kinda like the KKK was a "voluntary group?"<br /><br />A voluntary group that aims at overthrowing governments around the world and unilaterally dictating orders to the billions they seek to conquer...<br /><br />...and if you don't go along, they just send you to the 're-education camp' or the ovens. THAT is how they deal with dissent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-73936359865402719492009-06-11T12:43:57.020-05:002009-06-11T12:43:57.020-05:00Two words for you, PT. Socialist Realism, or in th...Two words for you, PT. Socialist Realism, or in this case... socialist surrealism.<br /><br />----------------------------<br /><br /> Yes, the style advocated by Ayn Rand. However, Farmer, if you go back to events after the revolution and before Stalin you will find one of the most inventive artistic eras of the 20th century.<br /><br /> Then came that madman Stalin ...Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-6250452835614539102009-06-11T12:40:25.101-05:002009-06-11T12:40:25.101-05:00You're right Farmer. He was a monarchist and f...You're right Farmer. He was a monarchist and forgiveness has been slow.<br /><br /> And in the film world he was nothing without Bunuel.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-14173094124215885252009-06-11T12:33:40.908-05:002009-06-11T12:33:40.908-05:00"Kinda explains the gulag, doesn't it. Di..."Kinda explains the gulag, doesn't it. Dissent? That's something only idiot democracies tolerate."<br /><br />FJ we are talking about VOLUNTARY GROUPS, private associations if you will. To force these associations to accept membership from those who are contrary to the goals of the group is an infringement of their democratic rights. Example- do you want an arsonist as a member of the Fire Department? A child molester teaching at a kindergarten? A Nazi in Anti-Racist Action? An anti-Semite as a member of the Temple? Of course not. And facist-symps have no place in a Surrealist Group.Larry Gambonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04965037776214596919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-40766044142744430602009-06-11T12:25:36.574-05:002009-06-11T12:25:36.574-05:00Pagan, they weren't an "artistic group&qu...Pagan, they weren't an "artistic group", but a movement of cultural revolutionaries that grew out of the earlier Dadaist Movement. Their goal, like the Dadaists, was to challenge bourgeois society at all levels. The difference with the Dadaists being that they were more organized, almost like a scientific research group. The Surrealist Movement included sculptors, poets, novelists, playwrights, performance artists (before the term was invented) and scholars of the esoteric as well as painters. Bourgeois commentators have tended to reduce the movement to a school of painting. Such a group - devoted to cultural revolution had every right to expel someone - no matter how talented - if they became cultural counter-revolutionaries.Larry Gambonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04965037776214596919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-27579098314549739942009-06-11T08:48:11.662-05:002009-06-11T08:48:11.662-05:00Okay, since you put it that way, I wouldn't le...<i>Okay, since you put it that way, I wouldn't let people in a group I started that believed in certain things I'm opposed to, or vice versa. I guess that's natural.</i><br /><br />Kinda explains the gulag, doesn't it. Dissent? That's something only idiot democracies tolerate.<br /><br />It's either Marx's way or the oven.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-29223798174404770582009-06-11T08:21:53.899-05:002009-06-11T08:21:53.899-05:00Well obviously the Surrealists weren't really ...Well obviously the Surrealists weren't really an "artistic" group at all then, were they PT? Perhaps the art world should stop labelling them as such. They were just another in a whole bunch of Commie front organizations, like the ACLU, PETA, Greenpeace, NOW, the AFL/CIO, SEIU, the DNC, etc., etc., etc...<br /><br />Put a Commie in charge of ANY group and from that point on, it's just a "front" in incompetencies resentful war on competency.<br /><br />Breton & co. didn't give a crap about advancing "surrealist" art. All it cared about was using surrealism to advance communism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-21615991214020666322009-06-11T07:27:11.745-05:002009-06-11T07:27:11.745-05:00Damn, Gambone and Ren actually convinced me of som...Damn, Gambone and Ren actually convinced me of something. Okay, since you put it that way, I wouldn't let people in a group I started that believed in certain things I'm opposed to, or vice versa. I guess that's natural. I just thought it was a strange, limiting way to run an artistic group, seeing as how you're taking the chance of ejecting somebody with great talent that could contribute greatly to the group, but I guess as a group they might have been conducting themselves with an eye to attracting certain patrons.<br /><br />On the really down side, you may have ruined surrealist art for me.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-6911976933550377672009-06-11T06:40:44.132-05:002009-06-11T06:40:44.132-05:00Dali "resolves" the enigma of Hitler'...Dali "resolves" the enigma of Hitler's rise to power in his painting. He paints Hitler's "soul" JUST as he paints Lenin's "soul" in the painting, The Enigma of William Tell.<br /><br />You all remember who William Tell was. don't you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-6363134811241055852009-06-11T06:31:57.343-05:002009-06-11T06:31:57.343-05:00Yes, and calling Lenin an enigma would be even &qu...Yes, and calling <a href="http://www.virtualdali.com/33EnigmaOfWilliamTell.html" rel="nofollow">Lenin an enigma</a> would be even "lamer" criticism. LOL!<br /><br />Yes, a picture of Spain literally tearing itself apart over a few beans couldn't possibly compare to Picasso's work... but then who's the one to say what art is "worth" painting, and what art "isn't"? The communists or the artists?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-9224409450226626022009-06-11T04:16:17.920-05:002009-06-11T04:16:17.920-05:00FJ: Why is Hitler an enigma to you? That was the ...FJ: Why is Hitler an enigma to you? That was the picture that got angry the Surrealists. Calling Hitler an enigma, is lame criticism.<br /><br />The Spanish Civil War picture hardly compares with Picasso's work on the subject.<br /><br />Larry G: Breton made a manifesto anti socialist realism, with Trotsky.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-67579497893494578202009-06-10T23:27:51.379-05:002009-06-10T23:27:51.379-05:00Breton became an anarchist after WW2 and wrote for...Breton became an anarchist after WW2 and wrote for Le Libertaire, weekly paper of the French Anarchist Federation (As did Albert Camus, by the way)Larry Gambonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04965037776214596919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-17662267085208216712009-06-10T04:39:54.329-05:002009-06-10T04:39:54.329-05:00Yes, Dali was neutral about Hitler and the Spanish...Yes, Dali was <a href="http://www.abcgallery.com/D/dali/dali16.html" rel="nofollow">neutral</a> about Hitler and the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jameswy_wang/2879609824/" rel="nofollow">Spanish Civil War</a>.<br /><br />Funny how his so-called "neutrality" doesn't come out in his work.<br /><br />Penis envy. THAT's what Commies like Breton had. SERIOUS penis envy.<br /><br />...and I think that about PROVES just who doesn't know shit from shinola.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-21800330169935987772009-06-10T03:04:19.325-05:002009-06-10T03:04:19.325-05:00Pagan: It wasn't a matter of being expelled fo...Pagan: It wasn't a matter of being expelled for abstact political views, it had to do with the fact, he refused to denounce Hitler and Franco. While German planes were used to bomb Spanish villages, and Jews being sent to concentration camps, Dali claimed neutrality. <br /><br />Jams: Agree. I like Wagner, who some say is reactionary.<br /><br />Larry G: See <a href="http://www.art-for-a-change.com/content/essays/dali.htm" rel="nofollow">this</a>.<br /><br />FJ: I don't care if you don't like Breton.<br /><br />The Surrealists were upset with Dali, for being neutral about Hitler and Franco. <br /><br />A group has the right to determine its membership. You have the right to ban people from posting. The Surrealists saw how dire fascism is, and couldn't tolerate having a pro fascist in the group.<br /><br />In the movie, Dali destroyed old sculptures. That is nihilism in my book.<br /><br />Dali wasn't a classical liberal or conservative. He was fascist. Lorca was a democrat, or classical liberal. He supported the elected government.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.com