tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post649665887378693164..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Mayday Greetings/Odds and Ends/Open ThreadFrank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger126125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-80245950120436029062009-05-12T17:23:00.000-05:002009-05-12T17:23:00.000-05:00Sorry, but until you've experienced DLS* for yours...Sorry, but until you've experienced DLS* for yourself, you'd not believe it possible.<br /><br />*Deranged Leftist SyndromeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-24287618039298415632009-05-12T14:06:00.000-05:002009-05-12T14:06:00.000-05:00My God, I wish someone had warned me about this Da...My God, I wish someone had warned me about this Daniel Hoffmann-Gill character - what a weird and obsessive crackpot he is, its like he is on a massive online abuse spree looking for real trouble.<br /><br />http://truthatsentinel.blogspot.com/2009/05/another-debate-another-muppet.htmlThe Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-61479823688634184332009-05-10T13:19:00.000-05:002009-05-10T13:19:00.000-05:00You know you've won when Last Word Danny makes his...You know you've won when <I>Last Word Danny</I> makes his, "this will be my last comment" post. WTG, Sentinel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-87161063632042685922009-05-09T17:05:00.000-05:002009-05-09T17:05:00.000-05:00Well Daniel, someone else put it best on the last ...Well Daniel, someone else put it best on the last thread:<br /><br /><br />“You're so full of SH*T, it's dribbling out your mouth. Grow the f*ck up!”<br /><br /><br />You were not there at all. You know, and I know it. And of course, you know that it couldn’t be proved either way too.<br /><br />And let’s make this clear – I did not offer to meet you for a discussion, I told you where I would be I so that you could repeat the choicest comments to my face; as soon as I did though I realized the folly of it. Idiots like you never say things to people’s faces.<br /><br />No, I only gave you the opportunity to play this stupid little game, and the opportunity to avoid having to admit that you have been wrong about everything I have challenged you on.<br /><br />It would hardly take a genius to figure that you are just as dishonest about this as you are with everything else:<br /><br />“I thought you were man of principle, I thought that even if you held views different to mine, views I hated and vica versa, you were a person of conviction”<br /><br />What a crock of shit – you have grossly insulted me all through the threads (which led to me telling you where I would be in the first place) you have used pretty much every pejorative term you could think of in describing and denigrating me, but now people are supposed to believe that - in you’re pathetically cringe worthy attempt to cloak yourself in mock equity and innocence - you really thought I was “a man of principle and conviction” after all, but now, tragically you have found I am not.<br /><br />You are so full of sh*t.<br /><br />And like I have said all along, you are a liar with no integrity and a bigoted, lightweight debater with no substance.<br /><br />You have been thoroughly proved wrong throughout this thread – and the last – and also revealed as a causal racist too – and now you feign some sort of moral high ground to get away from addressing it.<br /><br />No wonder why you were so glad at my honest but – with hindsight - foolish gesture.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-86906754664207786352009-05-09T16:33:00.000-05:002009-05-09T16:33:00.000-05:00Okay, here's the problem with this whole scenario....Okay, here's the problem with this whole scenario. I don't know or don't care who showed up and who didn't, it's impossible to know one way or another except the two of you. Obviously one of you didn't show up. Maybe neither one of you did. Maybe both of you did and kept your eyes strategically focused on the floor or ceiling. It doesn't matter. <br /><br />What does matter is the whole plan was flawed and based on a flawed principle. You do not go to a bar to meet strangers to discuss "views".<br /><br />If you are going to meet, resolve to meet to get to know each other on a personal level. Forget the nonsense about views, issues, and politics for the time being. Get to know each other as fellow Brits, as human beings, or whatever.<br /><br />A person should not be defined, and certainly should not define himself, by his "views". Views are transitory and can change or adapt to circumstances. Or that is how it should be. A person who defines himself by his views is limiting himself.<br /><br />Let me give you an example of what I mean. Take Renegade Eye. What is he and what does he believe. There are two ways to look at it.<br /><br />1. Renegade Eye is a socialist.<br /><br />2. Renegade Eye is a man whose political views are socialist in nature. <br /><br />Do you see the distinction? There is a very big difference, however subtle it might appear on the surface.<br /><br />In other words, you are not your "views", they are just a part of you. If there is not more to you than that-hopefully a hell of a lot more-you are doomed to wander in a fog of self-delusion.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-9024972734885689402009-05-09T16:10:00.000-05:002009-05-09T16:10:00.000-05:00Sentinal:
This will be my last comment here.
I a...Sentinal:<br /><br />This will be my last comment here.<br /><br />I arrived at the pub at 17:45 and I left at 18:14 as I said I would, to go and meet my partner.<br /><br />I waited for you to show, you did not. I honestly expected you to turn up but you didn't, I thought you were man of principle, I thought that even if you held views different to mine, views I hated and vica versa, you were a person of conviction to turn up and discuss them.<br /><br />You are not. <br /><br />You are a coward. <br /><br />You are delusional. <br /><br />You are a liar.<br /><br />How can you reconcile the lie that you were there when you were not? How can you tell me I wasn't there when I sat there and sipped a lime and soda.<br /><br />You refuse to exchange emails, you refuse to make your face known to me, you then lie about my whereabouts.<br /><br />You do not deserve my time, you do not deserve any respect and I will not waste any more effort on you.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-45831160098353369192009-05-09T09:09:00.000-05:002009-05-09T09:09:00.000-05:00I'm just not a fan of bigotry, that's all.LOL! Ju...<I>I'm just not a fan of bigotry, that's all.</I>LOL! Just "not your kind" of bigotry. You're a 'naive' bigot of the worst sort, Daniel. One so deeply bigoted, he's oblivious to it.<br /><br />And sentinel, you have proven all of your points. Daniel has only proven himself a pompous, self-righteous ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-48938450772458034432009-05-08T22:11:00.000-05:002009-05-08T22:11:00.000-05:00And of course Daniel, as predicted, you weren't in...And of course Daniel, as predicted, you weren't in that bar - not that I give a shit and it was fully expected - but you know it and I know.<br /><br />And again, as fully expected you are now also claiming that you were. You are a very strange little man, and a very much just an Internet blowhard.<br /><br />But at the very least, you could attempt to bash that keyboard with some real answers to those questions, backed up with some real evidence.<br /><br />Or why even bother bashing those keys at all?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-45428964965477817322009-05-08T11:46:00.000-05:002009-05-08T11:46:00.000-05:00Jealous?
FJ, you're not even reading what I wrote...<I>Jealous?<br /><br />FJ, you're not even reading what I wrote, just transposing your negativity onto it and calling me jealous.<br /><br />You can't change your ways can you, no debate, just last wordism and name calling?<br /><br />That's a shame.</I>Really? Here's what you wrote.<br /><br /><br /><I>FJ:<br /><br />You seem to be suggesting that your opinions are in fact 'the truth' when clearly, they are not, it is your opinion. Why is it that you and Sentinel can't just have opinions but you must have something greater than that, a stranglehold on the truth? It smack of being a wee bit needy and an inflated sense of self worth.<br /><br />Glad to see you're using name calling again duck.</I>LOL! Look in the mirror at what passes for "debate", through your own eyes, sh*t 4 brains.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-83287361264272734872009-05-08T10:32:00.000-05:002009-05-08T10:32:00.000-05:00Pagan Temple,
There is no meeting per se, and ce...Pagan Temple, <br /><br />There is no meeting per se, and certainly no 'date' - I have just informed this pretentious muppet where I will be tonight and next week because we are in the same city and so the usual internet hardman taunts don't have be just the usual cowardly keyboard type.<br /><br />But my avatar is actually a depiction - or more accurately a realistic representation - of myself, and I choose it for that very reason and also because it was looking away, and I liked it symbolising my choice of anonymity too.<br /><br />But it is the third time Daniel has decided to label it 'Aryan' art - purely because the subject is blond - casually using Nazi terms in the way that he causally use racist ones.<br /><br />Is everyone that is blond, and blond and blue-eyed an 'Aryan' object Daniel? Is it really a racial statement to be blond or it just a genetic fact?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-18609969973763356672009-05-08T10:19:00.000-05:002009-05-08T10:19:00.000-05:00And this is on you're racist nature:
Renegade eye...And this is on you're racist nature:<br /><br />Renegade eye doesn't provide an 'explanation' - he links to a wiki article that says exactly what I, common sense and the law do on this matter: <br /><br />"Pikey is a pejorative slang term used, mainly in England and Ireland, to refer to travellers, Gypsies..."<br /><br />It goes into detail about the various offensive racial usage's of the word, giving several examples but nowhere does it back your contention that it is common usage for 'cheap' - thats because you know damn well what it really means and use it the way a causal racist does.<br /><br />Do you think that because you have not directed the word at an individual it is any less offensive (and you are only a technicality away from breaking the law on racially aggravated harassment?) <br /><br />If, for example, I had said I don't like the Ritz because their meal portions are "kikey" do you think that would be any less offensive to Jews? Or that would acceptable?<br /><br />Of course not, it would reveal an underlying racist character of the worst kind- the casual racist.<br /><br />You are very quick to throw the label racist around to people you know nothing about but you cannot accept that your language equates to racism, and as I said, and you are only a technicality away from breaking the law on racially aggravated harassment.<br /><br />You need to face up to the fact that not only are you a casual racist, but you a hypocrite too.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-15858035872339959172009-05-08T10:18:00.000-05:002009-05-08T10:18:00.000-05:00Again Daniel, you have absolutely no substance or ...Again Daniel, you have absolutely no substance or integrity: I have proved that blacks DO commit the MAJORITY of serious crimes in London and the UK and that it is in massive DISPROPORTION to their numbers:<br /><br />In the UK it was leaked that 73% of those charged with knife crime were non-white (whist whites made up the largest victim group) Over 70 per cent of London's gun suspects were black, as were 50 per cent of the victims white. In 80% of gang rape cases, the defendants were black. There are five times more young blacks in prison then whites.<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036833/Over-half-young-knife-suspects-black-Scotland-Yard-figures-reveal.html<br /><br />http://www.itv.com/PressCentre/InTheLineOfFire/Ep1Wk07/default.html<br /><br />http://www.newstatesman.com/199811200011<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tx/black_crime.shtml<br /><br /><br />This is credible evidence. You are wrong.<br /><br />And so you tell me that it is race hate to say it: the truth equates to a hate crime in your book!! That is the sentiments of a fascist.<br /><br />Even the most PC PM we have ever seen, and one that you think has integrity had this to say because of the massive impact of these crimes:<br /><br /><br />“Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture.<br /><br />He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/apr/12/ukcrime.race<br /><br /><br />You are wrong - pure and simple.<br /><br />It is the truth that you have an issue with, if you don't like certain facts that you think you can use fascistic and Orwellian labels to suppress these facts and / or frighten the messenger into silence.<br /><br />If you really do not believe these facts then PROVE WHY, don't just make bold statements and use labels.<br /><br />I challenge you, for once, just once, to use EVIDENCE to back up you're contentions in the same way that I use evidence to back up mine.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-20508643756559088132009-05-08T08:33:00.000-05:002009-05-08T08:33:00.000-05:00I'm just not a fan of bigotry, that's all.
I have...I'm just not a fan of bigotry, that's all.<br /><br />I have noticed that your own tine and apporach has been very different, better so to speak, for some time, we disgaree but we don't call each other names and get in a rage.<br /><br />We outline our thoughts, sometimes share points and then move on.<br /><br />I'm trying this approach with FJ but he is dead-set against me, entrenched in his personal feelings.<br /><br />You should come to the UK for a break, it's a nic eplace with much to see and do and perhaps a journey to your Irish roots?Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-30967560083743853052009-05-08T08:30:00.000-05:002009-05-08T08:30:00.000-05:00It's not that you dislike it, its that you seem to...It's not that you dislike it, its that you seem to fly into such a rage over it. That's all right, though, you're a man of passionate beliefs, obviously, nothing wrong with that, or for that matter even if you are gay, which I know in all honesty you are not. I saw the latest pictures of your fiancee, her beauty should put any such questions to rest.<br /><br />Anyway, about the ranting, at one time I used to carry on the same way about that and other matters, to tell you the truth. I guess I'm getting older, or more conservative, or both. Now I just bitch about the government getting too powerful, and I guess people listen to that about as much as they ever listened to what I ever ranted about. <br /><br />I would like to come to the UK sometimes, so who knows? I always wanted to do a tour of the place, also Scotland, Wales, and Ireland. Of course if I visited every place I would like to see I would have to clone myself several times. I would have to be able to stay at least a couple of weeks in a place before I could even begin to get the gist of it, preferably a month.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-71717110508715071872009-05-08T08:00:00.000-05:002009-05-08T08:00:00.000-05:00Hi Pagan,
It's a pub on High Holborn, a regular p...Hi Pagan,<br /><br />It's a pub on High Holborn, a regular pub part of the Weatherspoons chain. They do cheap ale.<br /><br />And I had never had you down for a voyeur, you should let us know when you're in the UK and join us for a chat, I can't stay long tonight though, just going to show me face and then arrange another time to debate.<br /><br />Homophobia does make me cross but I find it odd you find someone disliking prejudice akin to homosexuality.<br /><br />Good spot though on the Aryan imagery in Sentinel's pic.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-89351796802080153992009-05-08T07:55:00.000-05:002009-05-08T07:55:00.000-05:00So what's this bar you two are supposedly going to...So what's this bar you two are supposedly going to meet at? Excuse me, pub. Is it a skinhead place, a Goth hang-out, gay bar, etc.? Maybe just a typical London pub, or more like a large nightclub, perhaps? <br /><br />If you two would put this meeting off for a couple of months, I would appreciate it. Sentinel, give me the name and address of the bar. I want to see this discussion, or engagement, or fight, or whatever it turns out to be.<br /><br />Then again, maybe I don't. In retrospect, there is something somewhat discomfiting about two grown men who give each other little slaps over the internet and then make dates to meet at bars. Especially when one of them is a man who rages to the heavens when somebody even implies a dislike of homosexuals, and the other has as his avatar a young, lithe, muscular, bare-backed and blond haired young man.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-41632747670119411662009-05-08T06:44:00.000-05:002009-05-08T06:44:00.000-05:00Jealous?
FJ, you're not even reading what I wrote...Jealous?<br /><br />FJ, you're not even reading what I wrote, just transposing your negativity onto it and calling me jealous.<br /><br />You can't change your ways can you, no debate, just last wordism and name calling?<br /><br />That's a shame.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-67355269931922700052009-05-08T06:41:00.000-05:002009-05-08T06:41:00.000-05:00You seem to be suggesting that your opinions are i...<I>You seem to be suggesting that your opinions are in fact 'the truth' when clearly, they are not, it is your opinion. Why is it that you and Sentinel can't just have opinions but you must have something greater than that, a stranglehold on the truth? It smack of being a wee bit needy and an inflated sense of self worth.</I>Aw, you're jealous! How cute. I guess if I had sh*t for brains, I'd be jealous of the real thing, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-82888360941604287482009-05-08T05:36:00.000-05:002009-05-08T05:36:00.000-05:00Sentinel:
Is that all you can say? It's a limited...Sentinel:<br /><br />Is that all you can say? It's a limited response; endless name calling.<br /><br />All you do is go: you're wrong. And then call me names. I'm sure it makes you feel great but it does little to the matter at hand and makes me curious as to why you're so distressed.<br /><br />I have plenty to say, as do you, unfortunately, for you, everything is a black persons fault, which is a wee bit odd considering how few black people we have in the UK. In fact, it's not just black people, non-whites in general and you expect the old racist antenna to not go off?<br /><br />I wondered how long it would take for you to call me fascist, you did well on holding out so long, you're getting better clearly.<br /><br />I can admit plenty when I'm wrong, you however, have a real low self-esteem and insecurity, reflected in your need to project your own self onto others, in this case me. <br /><br />I can help you with this, having been trained as a counsellor.<br /><br />I have never done extras work, the Emmerdale part was in it for 5 episodes, playing a gypsy believe it or not. Ha ha, how it all ties together in the end.<br /><br />And so for the final analysis Barry, you are in need of some good help and perhaps a small break in the sun, you are delusional and angry but I can help you with both.<br /><br />I look forward to 10 mins with you tomorrow before a longer outbreak of chat.<br /><br />Cool.<br /><br />FJ:<br /><br />You seem to be suggesting that your opinions are in fact 'the truth' when clearly, they are not, it is your opinion. Why is it that you and Sentinel can't just have opinions but you must have something greater than that, a stranglehold on the truth? It smack of being a wee bit needy and an inflated sense of self worth.<br /><br />Glad to see you're using name calling again duck.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-23956916772707253062009-05-07T20:50:00.000-05:002009-05-07T20:50:00.000-05:00You seem to confuse your opinion with the truth, a...<I>You seem to confuse your opinion with the truth, a dangeorus error, your opinion is all well and good but don't try and pitch it as the 'only way' or the truthful way, that makes you look pompous...again.</I>Of course, philosophers certainly recognize the difference between opinion and truth, but we have been known to apply our dialectical techniques to opinion and have learned how to "discern" truth from opinion, inductively. So perhaps if I'm a bit pompous, it's because unlike you, I have "good" reason to be. For I have "right" opinion which leads to "the Good". I've actually been to <A HREF="http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/lookup/encyclopedia/ri/Right_opinion.html" REL="nofollow">Larissa</A>.<br /><br />Ta-ta sh*t for brains. ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-89068065003968492852009-05-07T17:51:00.000-05:002009-05-07T17:51:00.000-05:00Well, here it is all out in the open: you don’t ha...Well, here it is all out in the open: you don’t have a clue about what you saying. <br /><br />Like I said all along you are just a shallow windbag devoid of any substance, honesty or integrity.<br /><br />You have nothing to say here because you know that you are wrong and demonstrably so - about all of your contentions - and that I have provided more then ample evidence to prove that blacks are responsible for the majority of serious crime in London, the UK and also - along with other non-white immigrant – in large parts of Europe too, and in immense disproportion to their numbers.<br /><br />Why? We need to know, that is for sure, it is of the utmost importance. How will address it? By accepting the facts and moving forward from there.<br /><br />But all you can come up with is that these facts are race hate. Absurd. Pathetic. Fascist.<br /><br />You cannot admit you are wrong – and how so very wrong – against all the evidence and have no argument whatsoever and so ask me inane questions like when I became a racist when it is in fact you that casually throws around grossly offensive racial insults that you could be arrested for using in the UK and convicted of racially aggravated harassment under Sections 28-32, 82 of the Crime & Disorder Act 1998, if you directed the racial insult to an individual. <br /><br />I am not alone in recognizing this racist behavior – hate crime – of yours on your blog either; your host here, Renegade Eye, being another observer of your hateful duplicity.<br /><br />You even have to lie about doing extras work when you clearly have and even admit to it on your blog “got to spit on a cripple in Emmerdale” – a liar needs a good memory Daniel.<br /><br />And so in the final analysis Daniel, you have been thoroughly exposed as your true self: a liar, a lightweight debater, a man of no integrity, a man of no substance, and a casual racist.<br /><br />As for the see you tomorrow dude crap – whilst I sincerely hope so I also sincerely doubt it too.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-66885607312618702772009-05-07T16:31:00.000-05:002009-05-07T16:31:00.000-05:00Sentinal that is long reply, if you've got this mu...Sentinal that is long reply, if you've got this much to say tomorrow, we'll need to meet twice.<br /><br /> 1) I'm talking about you, pretending to not understand is a device to avoid the issue at hand.<br /><br /> 2) You don't like saying sorry to you? Poor chap.<br /><br /> 3) Blah, blah, blah doesn't cut it Sentinal. Stop your flannel. <br /><br /> 4) Now you flip-flop again.<br /><br /> 5) It was a description of your approach to the issue at hand.<br /><br /> 6) Glad to see you accept your flip-flop.<br /><br /> 7) So you are being stupid, cool.<br /><br /> 8) The Blair apologising thing has been dealth with, you don't like a white man saying sorry to non-whites.<br /><br /> 9) You seriously think that non-white people and black people are more criminal don't you? <br /><br /> 10) I've noticed you like to call a lot of peopel fascists. Why?<br /><br /> 11) Wow, a lot of race hate there, how come? <br /><br /> 12) I'm curious, what made you a racist?<br /><br /> 13) I like the name my parents gave me, what's yours? Headshot getting me work thanks. Again you know nowt about acting, sorry love.<br /><br /> 14) I've told the truth thanks.<br /><br /> 15) See you tomorrow night dude!<br /><br /> 13) Yes I am, talk about what you know about. Never down extras work.<br /><br /> 16) No but all the acting work I do is. Cheers. I'll talk you through my CV step by step.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-89072725217879583662009-05-07T14:01:00.000-05:002009-05-07T14:01:00.000-05:00You really are a pompous shallow piece of work Dan...You really are a pompous shallow piece of work Daniel, churning out long contradictory and nonsensical detritus, all without base or evidence – a time thief as I have said. Again you try to drag a rational debate into the gutter. To summarise:<br /><br />1) “You make me laugh, you expect your excuse to wash? etc blah blah blah<br /><br />What are you on about you weird little mustachioed man? <br /><br /><br />2) “Clearly you feel that the US government should not offically apologise to the Native Americans, that is your opinion, my opinion is to the contrary. That is the end of it.”<br /><br />No, you pompous little arse – actually I’ll decide when it’s the end of it for me.<br /><br />Apologies for things that you have no control over and no responsibility for are absolutely meaningless. They are empty egotistical gestures devoid of any meaning in reality whatsoever.<br /><br />I could apologise to people on this blog that you were ever born and especially in England, and although I would sincerely mean it, I have no control over it and therefore for me to even attempt it would be merely a grand egocentric statement. It would mean nothing to anyone.<br /><br /><br />3) “I also detect that you find saying sorry to be a waste of time…” etc blah blah blah<br /><br />Again more painfully pretentious semantics - “I also detect” – adding to yet another nonsensical statement. <br /><br /><br />4) “Oh dear, here we go, Africa is to blame for the slave trade and other such racist nonsense”<br /><br />Did I say Africa was responsible you conceited muppet? <br /><br />Or did I say that the slave trade would not have been possible without the facilitation of the African and Arabian slavers who largely procured and traded Africans in the first place? Did I also say that if anyone was to apologize why should Britain – a country that abolished slavery before most others – and not everyone involved in slavery? <br /><br /><br />5) “People like you Sentinal, ie: racist, you take an element that has some truth in it and then blow it out of all proportion to make your own prejudiced point, thus obscuring the main culprits behind the act. Hitler spoke of this tactic often and it works well but not with me.”<br /><br />More pompous detritus – in what way was it blown out of proportion? – and how could it have been in just one sentence in any case? – and what does Hitler have to do with any of it?<br /><br /><br />6) “The same for your getting Native Americans to apologise for having slaves, one minute you're against apologies and the next you're all for it as long as it is Native Americans doing it. Make your mind up flip-flopper!”<br /><br />More baseless crap – again I clearly said that no one can apologize for it now – but if they are really going to start doing it, why must it just be whites when Indians owned African slaves too and Africans and Arabians facilitated the slave trade. <br /><br /><br />7) “Surely you're not going to be as stupid as to compare a personal apology between humans and a government…”<br /><br />More crap – baseless argumentum ad hominem – where was that said exactly?<br /><br /><br />8) “Blair apologised as a representative of a nation's government that had a hand in some terrible acts, he did so in retrospect as a gesture of goodwill…”<br /><br />Are you really saying that Blair’s government had a hand in slavery? If so you need a history lesson, if not you need an English lesson and you need to go back to understanding that apologies for things you have no control over are meaningless.<br /><br />And Blair didn’t do it as “a gesture of goodwill” Blair did for the same reason he did (and does) everything: immense vanity and self promotion. <br /><br />But seeing as you class Blair as a man of integrity, you might like to know that he fully agrees with me on the next point:<br /><br /><br />“Tony Blair yesterday claimed the spate of knife and gun murders in London was not being caused by poverty, but a distinctive black culture.<br /><br />He said people had to drop their political correctness and recognise that the violence would not be stopped "by pretending it is not young black kids doing it".<br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/apr/12/ukcrime.race<br /><br /> <br />Ready to admit you are wrong yet?<br /><br /><br />9) “And I see why, you then throw in the classic racist nonsense of black people apologising for crime in London. Good grief, you're seriously bothered about skin colour and gene pool aren't you?”<br /><br />If it’s so classic then you will be able to provide a couple of examples surely? <br /><br />And you cannot have it both ways – if you really think that white Britons should apologize to blacks for slavery then blacks can apologize to White Britons for their grossly disproportionate perpetration of crime in London and the UK.<br /><br /><br />10) “I'm not going to even give a racist statement like that creedence by arguing against it”<br /><br />Yeah right - In reality you know you are onto a loser and cannot argue against it. <br /><br />Given the facts that will follow, what you are saying is that to speak the truth is an act of racism. Like I have said, you are a fascist.<br /><br /><br />11) “only to say this, the worst crimes in the UK are carried out by white people, they commit more crime than any othe race in the UK”<br /><br />Completely untrue and again, either you are so out of touch with reality that you have no business debating with adults are you are just a plain liar.<br /><br />Blacks commit the worst crimes in the UK: Gun crime, Knife crime and gang rapes:<br /><br />In the UK it was leaked that 73% of those charged with knife crime were non-white (whist whites made up the largest victim group) Over 70 per cent of London’s gun suspects were black, as were 50 per cent of the victims. In 80% of gang rape cases, the defendants were black. There are five times more young blacks in prison then whites.<br /><br />http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1036833/Over-half-young-knife-suspects-black-Scotland-Yard-figures-reveal.html<br /><br />http://www.itv.com/PressCentre/InTheLineOfFire/Ep1Wk07/default.html<br /><br />http://www.newstatesman.com/199811200011<br /><br />http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tx/black_crime.shtml<br /><br /> <br />And it is not just in the UK that non-whites dominate crime either:<br /><br />In Denmark non-whites committed 68% of all rapes, and it was revealed that non-whites were over-represented in all crime by an average of 46% and in Copenhagen 47.5% of prisoners on remand for serious crimes were non-white. In Norway it was found that two out of three charged with rape in Oslo were non-white, whilst in Sweden it as found that a rapist was four times more likely to have been born abroad – with Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominating the group of rape suspects and that non-whites were responsible for 25% of all crime in Sweden A survey in Australia found that in Melbourne magistrate’s courts, offenders from the horn of Africa and the Middle East were 20 times the representative proportion of their population…<br /><br />http://www.cphpost.dk/news/1-latest-news/27877.html<br /><br />http://www.cphpost.dk/news/1-latest-news/28210.html<br /><br />http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article190268.ece<br /><br />http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article327666.ab<br /><br />http://www.thelocal.se/2683/20051214/<br /><br />http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,21166482-661,00.html<br /><br /><br />As I said before I could go on and on with this with every ‘western’ country that has allowed significant third world immigration.<br /><br />And just one more give away in the UK that blacks commit more violent crimes then anyone else is the fact that a special permanent police unit – euphemistically called an operation – exists. No such police unit exists for whites.<br /><br />Operation Trident costs tens of millions of pounds each year, and has over 500 staff purely dedicated to BLACK gun crime.<br /><br />Ready to admit you are wrong now?<br /><br /><br />12) “Bad maths, racist maths, as we discussed in the South Africa thread, crime is a by product or economical factors”<br /><br />More crap – blacks and other immigrants have just as much access to social security as the rest of us and even have laws that discriminate against whites and in their favor for employment – at the very worst, the poorest black and non-white immigrant is as poor as the poorest white, and yet, as we see they commit the majority of the worst crimes, and far, far in disproportion to their numbers.<br /><br />But out of interest, tell me how poverty can ever equate to gang rape?<br /><br /><br />13) “Now onto the personal attacks Sentinal”<br /><br />The double barreled name is your choice – you are in your thirties!! The headshot is a very amusing village people recruitment poster – in what way is it “doing well?” You are not an actor, you are a bit part extra; you have linked to your extras CV and stalking is not really the action of one click – but again, you are just an insincere, hysterical muppet. The accents are truly appalling – I genuinely mean that – they are atrocious and defiantly exclude any possibility of any real acting work. That London accent is the worst attempt I have ever heard – seriously Dick Van Dyke’s is better – or do you REALLY think otherwise??!! And you’re semantic style is just plain ridiculous – a bizarre mix of pomp, hysteria and conceit.<br /><br /><br />14) “Wrong again, you did know such thing, you do know this is a silly little argument on a blog don't you? You do know you don't know me at all? You're delusional as well.”<br /><br />The definition of liar is someone who does not tell the truth – I proved that about you, and I also proved that you have no integrity.<br /><br />But again, amusingly, you think that any slight against you is outrageous – how very dare me – but think you have the God given right to dole them out to everyone else.<br /><br />I don’t know you –thank God – but you do not know me. And whilst I have evidentially proved said flaws in your character you have only baselessly defamed me – and you are quite right, this is a “silly little argument on a blog” but you are still prepared to lie and show a lack of integrity – so God only knows how you conduct yourself in everyday life.<br /><br /><br />15) “You live in London Sentinal? Marvellous I'll email you!”<br /><br />No you wont – I have no interest in hearing reams of your correctly anticipated prima donna “you threatened me” I’m a victim crap, like you have already posted gratuitously on my blog. <br /><br />You haven’t been threatened at all, so stop acting like an hysterical little girl. <br /><br />You were told that if you want to make defamatory personal comments about me (again, someone you don’t know) then don’t just bang them out on a keyboard at home - do it to my face. We are both in the same city so we can do that quite easily.<br /><br />But I know your type very well - you are a blowhard, an internet hardman, full of talk and I am not interested in playing a protracted game of bullshit with you (that will most likely only lead to a police complaint) so I will just tell you where I will be for the next two Friday evenings while I finish a contract and you can come to me: Penderel's Oak, 283-287 High Holborn, Holborn, London, WC.<br /><br />I will be in that pub after work from around 6 to closing this Friday and next and in the extremely unlikely event that I see you come through the door I will introduce myself to you.<br /><br /> <br />13) “Thankfully, neither you or Sentinal know owt about show business”<br /><br />Neither do you because you are not in it. <br /><br />You are a bit parter and an extra. With truly awful accents. <br /><br /><br />16) “I've never had so many auditions”<br /><br />Auditions are not work.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-78357513217605556672009-05-07T12:12:00.000-05:002009-05-07T12:12:00.000-05:00I can have whatever I want for my profile pic, eve...I can have whatever I want for my profile pic, even Aryan inspired art. It's not a dare although some people seem to see it as that and are inspired to make threats on the Internet.<br /><br />You and I differ, I'm not hung up about apologising, as long as you mean it, it serves a purpose. And as I said there is a BIG difference between a personal and governmental apology.<br /><br />Sorry is a powerful word.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-75034426833386490702009-05-07T12:08:00.000-05:002009-05-07T12:08:00.000-05:00You don't have to use the audition picture for you...You don't have to use the audition picture for your blog avatar, do you? The old one makes a better blog avatar, is all I'm saying, because it looks argumentative, like you're daring someone to argue with you. I just think its funny, that's all. <br /><br />Also, Sentinel makes some good points. I think the problem here, the real hang-up, is the use of the word apology. An apology is meaningless. One cannot apologize for something he has not done or had no hand in. It's like telling a rape victim or one who has lost his entire family to murder that you understand how they feel? No you don't and can't possibly know how they feel unless of course you've been through something similar.<br /><br />It would be better to just issue something along the lines of a formal recognition and acknowledgment of wrongs done in the past, and a determination to move past that toward a new day of inclusion and opportunity for all Americans (or whatever the country in each particular case might be).<br /><br />That would be all right to an extent, but to add the word "apology" is just loaded with unwarranted implications. It's just inappropriate, especially to issue such apologies on behalf of the people you represent and who are innocent of anything. It's also pretentious.SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.com