tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post5059444881921536626..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Why is there no socialist architectural movement today?Frank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-80910520833558695042011-06-26T05:04:09.325-05:002011-06-26T05:04:09.325-05:00Renegade Eye:
I know we have. This is very much ...<strong> Renegade Eye: </strong><br /><br />I know we have. This is very much old ground.<br /><br /><br /><strong> Ross Wolfe:</strong><br /><br />So I was right about you. I thought as much.<br /><br />The less the reason and argument (in lieu) yet the more nonsensical and groundless and substanceless labels that fly, the greater the truth there is to the kernel of the contention. <br /><br />Like I said, look in the mirror, son. And look hard into yourself.<br /><br />Changes are coming - they must. But I don't think you will like what you see - and people will certainly not like what you are demanding.<br /><br />Reality can be depressing, I will grant you, and being young give rise to 'idealism', I will grant you, but I think that you are at the age where the former is a necessity and the latter is past its premiumThe Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-2727297461564999012011-06-25T19:36:06.580-05:002011-06-25T19:36:06.580-05:00Sentinel: I've been through this discussion 10...Sentinel: I've been through this discussion 1000x.<br /><br />Marx's essay on <i>The Jewish Question</i> is so antisemitic. It proposes that Jews will have the highest amount of religious freedom, in countries as the US, where there is a separation of church and state.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-25357526705508913572011-06-25T17:58:17.129-05:002011-06-25T17:58:17.129-05:00Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha<br /><br />I didn't realize that you were an imperialist, and quasi-fascist.Ross Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753431796536019173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-48074101284745437142011-06-25T17:01:33.963-05:002011-06-25T17:01:33.963-05:00Who wrote this verse, comparing himself to a God:
...Who wrote this verse, comparing himself to a God:<br /><br /><em> Like unto a God I dare<br />Through that ruined realm in triumph roam.<br />Every word is Deed and Fire,<br />And my bosom like the Creator's own.</em><br /> <br />No?<br /><br />Maybe this one then:<br /><br /><em> "It is high treason to pay taxes. Refusal to pay taxes is the primary duty of the citizen!""</em><br /><br />Or perhaps this:<br /><br /><em>"I begin to understand French anti-Semitism when I see how many Jews of Polish origin with German names intrude themselves everywhere to the point of arousing public opinion in the ville lumiere, of which the Parisian philistine is so proud and which he believes to be the supreme power in the universe."</em><br /><br />And I really do recommend you read the article in the New-York Daily Tribune on January 4, 1856 entitled "The Russian Loan" - its a real eye-opener.<br /><br />If you cant find it, I will be happy to oblige ...The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-11195380425828859942011-06-25T17:00:12.173-05:002011-06-25T17:00:12.173-05:00Ross Wolfe:
No defeat here, fella, only in your f...<strong> Ross Wolfe:</strong><br /><br />No defeat here, fella, only in your fevered imagination - and no surprises at your latest convulsions and contortions.<br /><br />Of course you need to throw a prima donna hissy fit again, because deep down, you know you are full of shit - and so is your twisted ideology.<br /><br />Unfortunately, you are the fucking idiot, my little friend, a real one at that and of the worst kind: A deluded, insecure, affirmation junkie.<br /><br />You dress yourself up as some kind of intellectual but in reality your endless verbiage is just a cover for your own insecurities - as you soon as you are confronted with truths you and your ilk invariably go into verbose overdrive, thinking that that tedious and wordy smokescreen will somehow fool people that what has been done, what has been said, hasn't really in fact been done or said, or wasn't meant to be done or said in the way that it clearly was.<br /><br />It is the ultimate cult of anti-reality - and you are its feckless follower.<br /><br />I see once again you have studiously avoided having to acknowledge that you crow over policies that caused the biggest mass-murder and genocide in human history and that both your heroes were genocidal racists - but that's par for the course.<br /><br />Instead you continue to embarrass yourself with your flights of fancy and outright dishonesty: <br /><br />1) The quote is directly from Engels, the only part where Arndt is quoted is quite clearly marked as such <em>" the only reply worthy of the German nation is Arndt's: "Give back Alsace and Lorraine" </em> - the rest is all Engels words, you lying fucking idiot.<br /><br />2) The quote is from Engels, not from Schelling. Those are Engels words - you lying fucking idiot.<br /><br />3) Yes it is. Your hero was an anti-Semite and a racist - didn't seem to like black people very much either. Nor Basques, Serbs, Breton or Scots. In fact he wanted to exterminate them. I notice you have avoided this one completely. You fucking idiot.<br /><br />4) As proved several times over, the Nazis implemented far more social policies then the USSR ever did - thus they were far more socialist then the so-called Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.<br /><br />5) Again, who gives a fuck what Marx liked or wanted? The vast majority of the world couldn't care less about what your genocidal racist had to say. For most people, the unions are the mainstay of the 'left' or at least a social idea. <br /><br />6) Again, who gives a fuck what you and Marx think is socialist? You are irrelevant. The majority of people would consider a nationalised people to be working to a nationalised goal.<br /><br />My opinion of Churchill is equally as low, he was a calamity for my country in the First and Second World Wars, he cost my country its empire, and mired us in debt for generations - but out of interest, what exactly is anti-Semitic about his article (written near the time)? Are you saying that the factual components are wrong?<br /><br />There, admit defeat, Sweetpea.<br /><br />As for 'schoolboy' - isn't that what you are? And isn't that the problem here? You haven't been anywhere, done anything, seen anything yet? You swallow all of this fantasy land rubbish as fact because you have never been in the real world - you have never seen the horrific results of civil wars, you have no idea what it is you are demanding.<br /><br />I asked you before, have you ever worked? And I mean a real manual labour job? <br /><br />Because I usually find your sort to be of the 'champagne socialist' type: <br /><br />Not even remotely working class, never done a days real work in your life and nor have generations of your family; much like the so-called Labour party in my country - dinner party more like - a mix of middle class, upper-middle class and toffs playing at being the working mans friends just to feel radical and purge themselves of various bitternesses.<br /><br />That's you, isn't it Ross?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-31942368496530486452011-06-25T16:30:34.512-05:002011-06-25T16:30:34.512-05:006. The idea of "nationalizing the people"...<b>6. The idea of "nationalizing the people" is not socialist at all...it's exactly what it says...NATIONALIST POPULISM.</b><br /><br /><i>The boy had juster views when he gazed at the shells on the beach, or the flowers in the meadow, unable to call them by their names, than the man in the pride of his nomenclature. </i> -Emerson-FJ the Dangerous and Extreme MAGA Jewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16745768408538827278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-22757790387792123662011-06-25T15:52:18.044-05:002011-06-25T15:52:18.044-05:00Again, nearly all of the quotes you cite from Marx...Again, nearly all of the quotes you cite from Marx and Engels are from 1841-1845, when they were in their early- to mid-twenties. Pre-1844, they both probably still considered themselves Young Hegelians, even if they were critical of Hegel's political philosophy.<br /><br />You really are a fucking idiot.<br /><br />And you obviously didn't read the texts where you take quotes from Engels.<br /><br />1. The first quote is <i>not</i> Engels. It's Engels quoting (in criticism of) Ernst Moritz Arndt. If you had read the fucking article this would be obvious.<br /><br />2. The quotation about the thousand-year reign is from his lecture notes on <i>Schelling's</i> philosophy, which he included as a part of his work <i>Anti-Schelling</i> later that year. Engels despised the man and his wretched philosophy. You fucking idiot.<br /><br />3. The Marx quote is obviously anti-semitic and partially self-loathing, and his early writings on the Jews (<i>On the Jewish Question</i>) are admittedly problematic. No Marxist I know denies this at all. But again, they were pieces of juvenilia that he quickly outgrew.<br /><br />4. The reason the Nazis were anti-capitalist (in name only, really, since they deployed <i>massive</i> industrial capital in their rearmament) is that they believed that "International Jewry" controlled it and used it to "pull the wires" of all the nations of the world.<br /><br />5. Socialists and Marxists are not blindly pro-union. Marx himself expressed his thoughts about their limitations, and some of Lenin's most famous rhetorical barbs are specifically <i>anti-union</i>, since he regarded many of the unions to be reactionary and opportunistic. Not all, but many.<br /><br />6. The idea of "nationalizing the people" is not socialist at all...it's exactly what it says...<b>NATIONALIST POPULISM</b>. Marxism and socialism in general is anti-populist, and you would know this if you knew anything about what you are talking. Hence Marx's polemics against the anarchists, Lenin's polemics against the Narodniki (literally "The Populists" or "The Nationalists" -- народ means both the people and the nation).<br /><br />And I have no idea what Marvin thinks of Churchill, but my opinion of him is rather low. I consider him a cheap anti-semite and incorrigible conservative whose own military career as an admiral in the British Navy led to disastrous losses at the hands of the Turks. Churchill deserved to be kicked out of the Prime Ministry before the end of the war, as did happen.<br /><br />There. Admit defeat and end your schoolboy antics.Ross Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753431796536019173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-87890633002499891912011-06-25T12:05:53.595-05:002011-06-25T12:05:53.595-05:00Renegade Eye:
Are you going to say I made up tho...<strong> Renegade Eye: </strong><br /><br />Are you going to say I made up those quotes?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-5298749382050418082011-06-25T12:05:15.023-05:002011-06-25T12:05:15.023-05:00Oh and Renegade Eye, as you keep mentioning Church...Oh and Renegade Eye, as you keep mentioning Churchill, are you actually aware of his true opinion of the 'Russian' revolution?<br /><br />If you didn't already know, then this may shed a different light on your man:<br /><br /><em>"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin [It has since been revealed that he was Jewish] the majority of the leading figures are Jews...<br /><br />In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses...<br /><br />The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people...<br /><br />The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with the villainies which are now being perpetrated....<br /><br />Zionism offers the third sphere to the political conceptions of the Jewish race. In violent contrast to international communism. <br /><br />Zionism has already become a factor in the political convulsions of Russia, as a powerful competing influence in Bolshevik circles with the international communistic system. Nothing could be more significant than the fury with which Trotsky has attacked the Zionists generally, and Dr. Weissmann in particular. The cruel penetration of his mind leaves him in no doubt that his schemes of a world-wide communistic State under Jewish domination are directly thwarted and hindered by this new ideal, which directs the energies and the hopes of Jews in every land towards a simpler, a truer, and a far more attainable goal. The struggle which is now beginning between the Zionist and Bolshevik Jews is little less than a struggle for the soul of the Jewish people."</em><br /><br /><strong>Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920, page 5</strong><br /><br /><a href="http://www.wendag.com/images/titans/ch61/church3i.jpg" rel="nofollow">Orignal Article</a>The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-73590637681809206302011-06-25T11:25:17.596-05:002011-06-25T11:25:17.596-05:00Renegade Eye:
Are you going to say I made up tho...<strong> Renegade Eye: </strong><br /><br />Are you going to say I made up those quotes?The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-24045543523918328912011-06-25T11:24:52.916-05:002011-06-25T11:24:52.916-05:00So that is your firmly put back in your box again ...So that is your firmly put back in your box again on Nazis, Ross, they were ULTRA-LEFTISTS.<br /><br />But more interestingly, did you know both your heroes - Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels - was a convinced racialists? And advocates for genocide? <br /><br /><em> In January 1849, months before he migrated to London, Karl Marx published an article by Friedrich Engels in Die Neue Rheinische Zeitung announcing that" in Central Europe only Germans, Hungarians and Poles counted as bearers of progress." The rest must go. "The chief mission of all other races and peoples, large and small, is to perish in the revolutionary holocaust."<br /><br />"The lesser races of Europe -- Basques, Serbs, Bretons and others -- being sunk in feudalism, were counter-revolutionary; having failed to develop a bourgeoisie, they would be two steps behind in the historical process". Engels dismissed them as left-overs and ethnic trash (Voelkerabfall), and called for their extinction.</em><br /><br />You can see the original article for yourself, and hear a Professor on the subject here:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aajXG_pcq0" rel="nofollow">Clip</a><br /><br />And here are a few more choice Marx quotes for your delectation:<br /><br /><em>"It is the circumvention of law that makes the religious Jew a religious Jew." (Die Deutsche Ideologie, MEGA V, 162) <br /><br />"The Jews of Poland are the smeariest of all races." (Neue Rheinische Zeitung, April 29, 1849) <br /><br />He called Ferdinand Lassalle, "Judel Itzig – Jewish Nigger." (Der Jüdische Nigger, MEKOR III, 82, July 30, 1862) <br /><br />"Ramsgate is full of Jews and fleas." (MEKOR IV, 490, August 25, 1879) </em><br /><br />Starting to wake up a little now? <br /><br />Reality can be a bitch, fella, but unfortunately it is where most of us have to spend our time.<br /><br />You have a nice day, now.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-64831583520592942382011-06-25T11:22:21.468-05:002011-06-25T11:22:21.468-05:00And here we have Marx and Engels with their take:
...And here we have Marx and Engels with their take:<br /><br /><em>"4 - We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions"</em><br /><br />And:<br /><br /><em>"5 - As things stand today, the trade unions in my opinion cannot be dispensed with. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions of the nation's economic life. Their significance lies not only in the social and political field, but even more in the general field of national politics. A people whose broad masses, through a sound trade-union movement, obtain the satisfaction of their living requirements and at the same time an education, will be tremendously strengthened in its power of resistance in the struggle for existence".</em><br /><br />And:<br /><br /><em>"6 - Why nationalize industry when you can nationalize the people?"</em><br /><br />The only problem is that the first two nationalistic quotes came from Friedrich Engels and the third one, sounding very much like a Hitler speech, is from Karl Marx - whereas the last three distinctly socialist sounding quotes came from Hitler.<br /><br /><strong>1 - Friedrich Engels Telegraph für Deutschland January 1841<br /><br />2 - Friedrich Engels , Schelling and Revelation, Critique of the Latest Attempt of ReactionAgainst the Free Philosophy, 1842<br /><br />3 - Karl Marx, Deutsch-Französische Jahrbücher, 1844<br /><br />4 - Adolf Hitler, May 1, 1927, Toland, John , Adolf Hitler, pp. 224–225.<br /> <br />5- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume 2, Chapter 12<br /><br />6 - Adolf Hitler, 1933, Robert N. Proctor, The Nazi War on Cancer, p. 74.</strong>The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-82649836777927438652011-06-25T11:19:52.434-05:002011-06-25T11:19:52.434-05:00Ross Wolfe:
Again, all very easy to deal with. I ...<strong> Ross Wolfe:</strong><br /><br />Again, all very easy to deal with. I really don't know what you (or Renegade Eye) think you have achieved with those quotes, but not to worry, I will provide you with some more to further your education.<br /><br />But first off though, don't you think there might be some double standard or hypocrisy at play here?<br /><br />Only a couple of comments back you dishonestly claim this about me ...<br /><br /><em>"your habit of posting endless strings of nonsensical posts with links that no one in their right mind would ever click on"</em><br /><br />... and the then produce the above. Like I said, look in the mirror, son - you are projecting. <br /><br /><strong>"When did I ever advocate torture, mass-murder, genocide, or anything of the sort?"</strong><br /><br />Well for a start you never stop salivating over 'revolution' - and how exactly will this be achieved (and what is wrong with democracy?)<br /><br />But most especially a post or so back you were crowing about Soviet collectivisation and recommending 'some really interesting Soviet films about collectivization' - clearly quite taken with the idea.<br /><br />Now are you really going to tell me in all seriousness that you have no idea that that policy was responsible for the biggest mass-murder and genocide in human history? <br /><br />I think not. <br /><br />You purposefully didn't comment when I posted films documenting the reality of that monstrous act of crimes against humanity, and then acted like an enraged 5 year old here - spitting venom about links you claim not have seen - at the first opportunity in revenge. You must think we have all just dropped out of the sky.<br /><br />Now, as for Hitler quotes, what do you think of this one to reinforce your claim about the Nazis that they were ULTRA-RIGHTISTS :<br /><br /><em>"1 - True, it is a fixed idea with the French that the Rhine is their property, but to this arrogant demand the only reply worthy of the German nation is Arndt's: "Give back Alsace and Lorraine". For I am of the opinion, perhaps in contrast to many whose standpoint I share in other respects, that the reconquest of the German-speaking left bank of the Rhine is a matter of national honour, and that the Germanisation of a disloyal Holland and of Belgium is a political necessity for us. Shall we let the German nationality be completely suppressed in these countries, while the Slavs are rising ever more powerfully in the East?"</em><br /><br />Or how about this one:<br /><br /><em>"2 - This is our calling, that we shall become the templars of this Grail, gird the sword round our loins for its sake and stake our lives joyfully in the last, holy war which will be followed by the thousand-year reign of freedom."</em><br /><br />And surely this one seals the deal:<br /><br /><em>"3 - Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew -- not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew. What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. Very well then! Emancipation from huckstering and money, consequently from practical, real Jewry, would be the self-emancipation of our time.... We recognize in Jewry, therefore, a general present-time-oriented anti-social element, an element which through historical development -- to which in this harmful respect the Jews have zealously contributed -- has been brought to its present high level, at which it must necessarily dissolve itself. In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Jewry".</em>The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-15501279965915208392011-06-25T06:52:46.214-05:002011-06-25T06:52:46.214-05:00Marx loves to pontificate upon the subject of inte...Marx loves to pontificate upon the subject of inter-class struggle, but apparently ignored the <a href="http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060928042623/uncyclopedia/images/4/46/Reign_of_Terror_French_Revolution.JPG&imgrefurl=http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Reign_of_Terror_French_Revolution.JPG&usg=__oSvo0a2I9qCovz6J225yJTUYK_g=&h=599&w=429&sz=107&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=YdeWL8LhGnIuaM:&tbnh=161&tbnw=115&ei=68oFTt7RG4fx0gGV2tG5Cw&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dterror%2Bfrench%2Brevolution%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26biw%3D1272%26bih%3D826%26tbm%3Disch&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=371&vpy=71&dur=536&hovh=161&hovw=115&tx=52&ty=98&page=1&ndsp=24&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0&biw=1272&bih=826" rel="nofollow">intra-class struggle</a> (notice their feet) that will never disappear. Man's ship of state sails between <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Qr7HWfag0" rel="nofollow">Scylla</a> and Charbydis... and despite Marx's "desires" that religion would dissappear, looking "backwards" to capitalism will NEVER go away.Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-81151012338273313522011-06-25T06:44:00.634-05:002011-06-25T06:44:00.634-05:00Look up social democracy. To deny its differences ...<i>Look up social democracy. To deny its differences with Marxism is dishonest and moronic.</i><br /><br />And what is it to deny its' similarities, as Mr. Wolfe does?Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-15622345555005999062011-06-25T00:14:51.646-05:002011-06-25T00:14:51.646-05:00All right, hopefully the Nazi matter is settled an...All right, hopefully the Nazi matter is settled and done with. Before moving on to a new post, does anyone have any thoughts at all regarding the contents of the post at hand?Ross Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753431796536019173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-46958498498207292442011-06-24T23:25:42.374-05:002011-06-24T23:25:42.374-05:00Ross: I can understand that the right doesn't ...Ross: I can understand that the right doesn't want, the stigma of Nazism, as the left doesn't want the stigma of Stalinism. The Truth is the truth.<br /><br />When Churchill, Roosevelt or Hitler conquered, they never expropriated or nationalized property. They were all anti-Bolshevik. Bolshevism is revolutionary socialism. Not social democracy.<br /><br />The Hitler quotes would make a good post.<br /><br />SpeedyG: Look up social democracy. To deny its differences with Marxism is dishonest and moronic.<br /><br />Sentinel: Are you going to say Ross made up those quotes? <br /><br />Thersites: ?Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-69718231584335838992011-06-24T17:55:03.789-05:002011-06-24T17:55:03.789-05:00"Democracy, as practised in Western Europe to..."Democracy, as practised in Western Europe to-day, is the fore-runner of Marxism. In fact, the latter would not be conceivable without the former. Democracy is the breeding-ground in which the bacilli of the Marxist world pest can grow and spread. By the introduction of parliamentarianism, democracy produced an abortion of filth and fire, the creative fire of which, however, seems to have died out." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv1ch03.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume I, Chapter 3</a><br /><br />"Today Bolshevism and its Marxist-Centrist-Democratic helpers are faced with a gigantic front of awakening Germany!<br /><br />Were it not for the pact which the Center and the middle classes have entered into with Marxism as a result of their inner relatedness of character, there would be no red, anti-Christian Germany today. Therefore they are the accursed accomplices of Bolshevism.<br /><br />Just as a figure like Bismarck once rightfully described liberalism as the pacesetter of Social Democracy, Democracy and the Center are today the pacesetters of Bolshevism and thus the parties who are mainly to blame for our misfortune." Speech delivered January 1st, 1932<br /><br />"For seventy years, disreputable bourgeois parties in Germany have exhausted the power of the national idea and, to a large degree, left our Volk at the mercy of Marxism. For seventy years the parties of democracy and, in their wake, the strictly Christian Center Party, have helped to corrupt our Volk by practicing sodomy with the forerunners of Bolshevism.<br /><br />Today they are clinging with a reprehensible thirst for power to a regime which would no longer belong to them if their own significance alone were any measure.<br /><br />Were the National Socialist Movement to cease existing today as a counterbalance to Marxism, Germany would be Bolshevist tomorrow." Speech delivered January 1st, 1932<br /><br />In case you're so illiterate when it comes to political history that you don't understand this, the Nazis were Conservative to the point that they even rejected liberal, parliamentarian democracy, considering it just to be a phase towards Marxism. This is why they were ULTRA-RIGHTISTS.Ross Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753431796536019173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-32297656061412463172011-06-24T17:54:38.959-05:002011-06-24T17:54:38.959-05:00Ballads for the Modern Proletariat...<a href="http://thersitescorner.blogspot.com/2011/06/modern-overmen.html" rel="nofollow">Ballads</a> for the Modern Proletariat...Thersiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15751286903359745316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-72326509892767678712011-06-24T17:42:46.531-05:002011-06-24T17:42:46.531-05:00"The disruptive work done by the Marxists and..."The disruptive work done by the Marxists and the poisonous propaganda of the external enemy had robbed these people of their reason. And one had no right to complain. For the guilt on this side was enormous. What had the German bourgeoisie done to call a halt to this terrible campaign of disintegration, to oppose it and open a way to a recognition of the truth by giving a better and more thorough explanation of the situation than that of the Marxists? Nothing, nothing. At that time I never saw those who are now the great apostles of the people. Perhaps they spoke to select groups, at tea parties of their own little coteries; but there where they should have been, where the wolves were at work, they never risked their appearance, unless it gave them the opportunity of yelling in concert with the wolves." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv2ch06.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume II, Chapter 6</a><br /><br />"It is useless to object here, as certain big Berlin papers of German-National tendencies have attempted to do, that this statement is refuted by the fact that the Marxists have exercised their greatest influence through their writings, and especially through their principal book, published by Karl Marx. Seldom has a more superficial argument been based on a false assumption. What gave Marxism its amazing influence over the broad masses was not that formal printed work which sets forth the Jewish system of ideas, but the tremendous oral propaganda carried on for years among the masses. Out of one hundred thousand German workers scarcely one hundred know of Marx’s book. It has been studied much more in intellectual circles and especially by the Jews than by the genuine followers of the movement who come from the lower classes. That work was not written for the masses, but exclusively for the intellectual leaders of the Jewish machine for conquering the world. The engine was heated with quite different stuff: namely, the journalistic Press. What differentiates the bourgeois Press from the Marxist Press is that the latter is written by agitators, whereas the bourgeois Press would like to carry on agitation by means of professional writers." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv2ch06.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume II, Chapter 6</a><br /><br />"The very absurdity of the economic and political theories of Marxism gives the doctrine its peculiar significance. Because of its pseudo-logic, intelligent people refuse to support it, while all those who are less accustomed to use their intellectual faculties, or who have only a rudimentary notion of economic principles, join the Marxist cause with flying banners. The intelligence behind the movement – for even this movement needs intelligence if it is to subsist – is supplied by the Jews themselves, naturally of course as a gratuitous service which is at the same time a sacrifice on their part." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv1ch11.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume I, Chapter 11</a>Ross Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753431796536019173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-52298248183154512442011-06-24T17:34:06.989-05:002011-06-24T17:34:06.989-05:00"Another thing which irritated me was the man..."Another thing which irritated me was the manner in which Marxism was regarded and accepted. I thought that all this proved how little they knew about the Marxist plague. It was believed in all seriousness that the abolition of party distinctions during the War had made Marxism a mild and moderate thing." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv1ch05.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume I, Chapter 5</a><br /><br />"In the August of 1914 the German worker was looked upon as an adherent of Marxist socialism. That was a gross error. When those fateful hours dawned the German worker shook off the poisonous clutches of that plague; otherwise he would not have been so willing and ready to fight. And people were stupid enough to imagine that Marxism had now become ‘national’, another apt illustration of the fact that those in authority had never taken the trouble to study the real tenor of the Marxist teaching. If they had done so, such foolish errors would not have been committed." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv1ch05.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume I, Chapter 5</a><br /><br />"Marxism, whose final objective was and is and will continue to be the destruction of all non-Jewish national States, had to witness in those days of July 1914 how the German working classes, which it had been inveigling, were aroused by the national spirit and rapidly ranged themselves on the side of the Fatherland." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv1ch05.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume I, Chapter 5</a>Ross Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753431796536019173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-23252036058943344992011-06-24T17:26:58.451-05:002011-06-24T17:26:58.451-05:00"[T]he Marxist fighting forces, commanded by ..."[T]he Marxist fighting forces, commanded by international and Jewish stock-exchange capital, cannot finally smash the national resistance in Germany without friendly help from outside. For this purpose French armies would first have to invade and overcome the territory of the German Reich until a state of international chaos would set in, and then the country would have to succumb to Bolshevik storm troops in the service of Jewish international finance." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv2ch13.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume II, Chapter 13</a><br /><br />"The Jewish way of reasoning thus becomes quite clear. The Bolshevization of Germany, that is to say, the extermination of the patriotic and national German intellectuals, thus making it possible to force German Labour to bear the yoke of international Jewish finance – that is only the overture to the movement for expanding Jewish power on a wider scale and finally subjugating the world to its rule." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv2ch13.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume II, Chapter 13</a><br /><br />"Among this great mass of denationalized countries which have become Jewish colonies one independent State could bring about the ruin of the whole structure at the last moment. The reason for doing this would be that Bolshevism as a world-system cannot continue to exist unless it encompasses the whole earth. Should one State preserve its national strength and its national greatness the empire of the Jewish satrapy, like every other tyranny, would have to succumb to the force of the national idea." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv2ch13.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume II, Chapter 13</a><br /><br />"The activist assault formations that had started the [German 1919] Revolution were dissatisfied and felt that they had been betrayed. They now wanted to continue the fight on their own account. But their illimitable racketeering became odious even to the wire-pullers of the Revolution. For the Revolution itself had scarcely been accomplished when two camps appeared. In the one camp were the elements of peace and order; in the other were those of blood and terror. Was it not perfectly natural that our bourgeoisie should rush with flying colours to the camp of peace and order? For once in their lives their piteous political organizations found it possible to act, inasmuch as the ground had been prepared for them on which they were glad to get a new footing; and thus to a certain extent they found themselves in coalition with that power which they hated but feared. The German political bourgeoisie achieved the high honour of being able to associate itself with the accursed Marxist leaders for the purpose of combating Bolshevism." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv2ch09.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume II, Chapter 9</a>Ross Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753431796536019173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-79818735215601239302011-06-24T17:14:34.344-05:002011-06-24T17:14:34.344-05:00From Hitler's own speeches and writings:
&quo...From Hitler's own speeches and writings:<br /><br />"We chose red for our posters after particular and careful deliberation, our intention being to irritate the Left, so as to arouse their attention and tempt them to come to our meetings – if only in order to break them up – so that in this way we got a chance of talking to the people." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv2ch07.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume II, Chapter 7</a><br /><br />"it is much more difficult to impress definite political ideas on the minds of men whose earlier political education was not less nonsensical and illogical than that given to the partisans of the Left. These men have sacrificed the last residue of their natural instincts to the worship of some abstract and entirely objective theory. It is particularly difficult to induce these representatives of our so-called intellectual circles to take a realistic and logical view of their own interests and the interests of their nation in its relations with foreign countries. Their minds are overladen with a huge burden of prejudices and absurd ideas and they have lost or renounced every instinct of self-preservation. With those men also the National Socialist Movement has to fight a hard battle." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv2ch14.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume II, Chapter 14</a><br /><br />"To-day our Left-wing politicians in particular are constantly insisting that their craven-hearted and obsequious foreign policy necessarily results from the disarmament of Germany, whereas the truth is that this is the policy of traitors. To all that kind of talk the answer ought to be: No, the contrary is the truth. Your action in delivering up the arms was dictated by your anti-national and criminal policy of abandoning the interests of the nation. And now you try to make people believe that your miserable whining is fundamentally due to the fact that you have no arms. Just like everything else in your conduct, this is a lie and a falsification of the true reason." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv1ch12.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume I, Chapter 12</a><br /><br />"In the beginning of 1920 I put forward the idea of holding our first mass meeting. On this proposal there were differences of opinion amongst us. Some leading members of our party thought that the time was not ripe for such a meeting and that the result might be detrimental. The Press of the Left had begun to take notice of us and we were lucky enough in being able gradually to arouse their wrath. We had begun to appear at other meetings and to ask questions or contradict the speakers, with the natural result that we were shouted down forthwith. But still we thereby gained some of our ends. People began to know of our existence and the better they understood us, the stronger became their aversion and their enmity. Therefore we might expect that a large contingent of our friends from the Red Camp would attend our first mass meeting." <a href="http://www.std.com/obi/Adolph.Hitler/unpacked/mkv1ch12.html" rel="nofollow"><i>Mein Kampf</i>, Volume I, Chapter 12</a>Ross Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753431796536019173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-89616575813015307342011-06-24T16:55:36.247-05:002011-06-24T16:55:36.247-05:00When did I ever advocate torture, mass-murder, gen...When did I ever advocate torture, mass-murder, genocide, or anything of the sort?<br /><br /><i>The Communist Manifesto</i>, while a brilliant rhetorical piece, is a piece of juvenilia which Marx wrote on commission from a party active in France, which he slapped together in under a week because he had put it off.<br /><br />You won't see him advocating any such political "platforms" in his later, more mature theoretical writings. Any such platforms could only be seen as provisional, if they were to be implemented at all.<br /><br />In his 1876 <i>Critique of the Gotha Program</i>, Marx specifically repudiated Lassalle for attempting such reformist measures meant simply to act as a palliative to ensure the continuation of capitalism.<br /><br />And my point in bringing up Bismarck and Teddy Roosevelt was that their politics <b>UNDENIABLY</b> belonged to right-wing nationalist chauvinism. And they were the ones who introduced government regulations of business and progressive income taxes. Implying that they are reformist measures undertaken by the Right to appease the discontent of the masses.<br /><br />I suppose you also find restrictions on child labor and free public education for all youths to be unjust as well.<br /><br />hahaRoss Wolfehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14753431796536019173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-25045046279841226722011-06-24T14:18:45.209-05:002011-06-24T14:18:45.209-05:00But as for your truly bizarre attempts at rebuttal...But as for your truly bizarre attempts at rebuttal, it is quite simple to recap:<br /><br />- The Wehrmacht were ordinary soldiers, largely conscripted whereas the Waffen-SS were political soldiers and all volunteers - they numbered over a million strong and over 60% of that number were non-German, including Slavs and even Indians and Muslims - the SS were the executive arm of the Nazi state and every expression of it was an expression of the regime. They were largely pan-European in nature, because the regime was pan-European in nature. <br /><br />- The Model T wasn't within the reach of the German 'working man' (nor many others) with its price range over time from $20,000 - $3,000 in today's terms; it was mostly for the 'middle-class' and one the main reasons why the Volkswagen programme was initiated in the first place<br /><br />- To people who actually work for a living, holidays are very important; and they couldn't give a toss why they are, as long as they. But ANZAC day in Australia, for instance, is this superstitious? Or Australia day? Or US independence day?<br /><br />- As for agricultural subsidies - who gives a fuck what Marx wanted? I don't nor do the vast majority of the world. Do most people see this type of policy as social? I think they do<br /><br />- Prices of food set by government - again all you have is your fantasy of what you pretend will happen 'in a postcapitalist society' - whereas the rest of us here in the current space/time continuum realise that this is a social policy <br /><br />- Progressive tax - so it is not a demand in section 2 of the Communist Manifesto then? And wasnt the Communist Manifesto written 10 years before Roosevelt was even born? You clown. <br /><br />- Green - again, no one gives a fuck about what you or Marx think, most people associate these policies with the left<br /><br />- Rent - again back to your fantasy world about 'in a postcapitalist society' - meanwhile the rest of us have to live in reality, and for those of us who actually work and pay rent, this policy would have enormous impact on our quality of lives; and it would also be seen by most as a social policy too <br /><br /> - Tenets - same as above<br /><br />- Child Benefit - same as above <br /><br />- Pensions - as above<br /><br />- Taxes - as above <br /><br />- Special social benefit - as above<br /><br />So now having put you back in your box and educated you in reality, please do continue with the Prima Dona hissy fits - they make me and everyone else laugh at you even more.<br /><br />Or you could actually try and engage with the adults and maybe just learn something.<br /><br />You have a nice day, now, sweetpea.The Sentinelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18407669804421969164noreply@blogger.com