tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post3771302913906914073..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Northern Ireland: No Way Out Except SocialismFrank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-46829161463058136052009-04-07T10:52:00.000-05:002009-04-07T10:52:00.000-05:00FJ:I base my comments on what people offer, ie: ho...FJ:<BR/><BR/>I base my comments on what people offer, ie: homophobic language and/or racist language. I would urge people not to use it rather than complain when they are 'outed' as people that use words like that. I've already talked about cake and eat it.<BR/><BR/>Don't use racist or homophobic language and it will be okay won't it?<BR/><BR/>As for the names I called you, indeed, it paints us all in a poor light that such language was used, I have urged Ren to delete comments such as these from myself and from you and to seal the threads shut so nothing else can be spoilt. I'm not proud of these terms at all, I was provoked but that is no excuse for such things but it does take two to tango in such matters.<BR/><BR/>You constantly push the buttons and I am someone who will rise to them, for good or for bad.<BR/><BR/>But currently, the discussion has sunk to new lows.<BR/> <BR/>And sorry, with ref to the chap who connected socialism to paedophilia, I will use that language, having worked with victims of that crime, it is not a joking matter or a connection used lightly, such as being a Nazi.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-23349024920117102382009-04-07T10:45:00.000-05:002009-04-07T10:45:00.000-05:00How about when you call them, "a fucking twat? or ...How about when you call them, "a fucking twat? or "slimey childish cunt?"<BR/><BR/>You're so respectful of the other poster here. It makes me feel real real bad whenever I hurt your feelings.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-79917953044292150772009-04-07T10:43:00.000-05:002009-04-07T10:43:00.000-05:00Oh, your feelings were hurt. How sad for you. Do...Oh, your feelings were hurt. How sad for you. Do you care about anyone elses when you call them racist homophobes? I didn't think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-20183120923973987262009-04-07T08:28:00.000-05:002009-04-07T08:28:00.000-05:00what respect I had for you, slim as it was, is now...what respect I had for you, slim as it was, is now gone, not only for spoiling another thread, calling socialsim paedophilia but the terrible crime of abusing the memory of my relatives.<BR/><BR/>You are a horrible little man, with no understading oft he words you use and the hate speech you brutalise people with.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-51928296358371389832009-04-07T08:03:00.000-05:002009-04-07T08:03:00.000-05:00Well, if you could curtail your personal attacks o...Well, if you could curtail your personal attacks on posters whose opinions you don't agree with, we wouldn't have this problem now, would we?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-45085467904083387372009-04-07T04:03:00.000-05:002009-04-07T04:03:00.000-05:00You're pathetic, destroying yet another thread.You're pathetic, destroying yet another thread.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-68842077860095340912009-04-06T20:07:00.000-05:002009-04-06T20:07:00.000-05:00Besides. This thread was dead on the 27th when Mr...Besides. This thread was dead on the 27th when Mr. D. left his comment. Two days later Larry posted a lame defense of everyone does it, and then "mr toney" showed up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-78521902073289849242009-04-06T20:02:00.000-05:002009-04-06T20:02:00.000-05:00Let's see...In a new biography, British journalist...Let's see...<BR/><BR/><I>In a new biography, British journalist, broadcaster and gadfly Francis Wheen argues that Marx actually occupied this profane ground himself and strives to recover Marx the man--carbuncles and all--as opposed to Marx the myth, from posterity. What unfolds is a tale of an intricate and vulnerable figure, a Prussian refugee who, in Wheen's words, "became a middle-class English gentleman; an angry agitator who spent much of his adult life in the scholarly silence of the British Museum Reading Room; a gregarious and convivial host who fell out with almost all his friends; <B>a devoted family man who impregnated his housemaid</B>; and a deeply earnest philosopher who loved drink, cigars and jokes." Wheen reveals a feisty yet frail patriarch, a peripatetic vagabond who spent more than thirty years traipsing from one crummy apartment to another, avoiding debts, pawning what little he had, shrugging off illness.<BR/>---<BR/>True, Wheen succeeds in painting a Marx vividly human in some ways. Yet he's far too preoccupied with frivolity, with recounting Marx's alcoholic high jinks, discoursing on his flatulence and<B> boil-ridden penis...</B></I><BR/><BR/>Sounds like Nietzsche wasn't the ONLY syphilitic prostitute frequenter. How else do you get a "boil ridden" penis?<BR/><BR/>There may be truth to some of Mr. D's accusations...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-49539964523963051902009-04-06T19:46:00.000-05:002009-04-06T19:46:00.000-05:00LOL! The thread was closed? Then why weren't com...LOL! The thread was closed? Then why weren't comments turned off?<BR/><BR/>So let's discuss whether or not Marx was a paedophile or not. If we can talk about Jefferson's mistress, we sure as hell can talk about Marx's catamites. Of course, you shouted down Mr. D. before he could elaborate, so perhaps we'll never learn the truth of the matter.<BR/><BR/>...or will we? I'll be back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-78293023443890578512009-04-06T12:20:00.000-05:002009-04-06T12:20:00.000-05:00Seriously FJ, stop destroying threads that are don...Seriously FJ, stop destroying threads that are done and dusted with a long time ago, contain it to the one thread at least.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-4522413812756540492009-04-06T12:14:00.000-05:002009-04-06T12:14:00.000-05:00This was a dead thread as of 29th March and you re...This was a dead thread as of 29th March and you re-open it again with a personal insult, my insult was to Mr. Divine who connected socialism with paedophilia; which I'm sure even you can agree is an idiotic and insensitive thing to do.<BR/><BR/>Or do you think they are connected FJ?<BR/><BR/>As for my tone effecting this blog, stop opening dead threads with the only aim of insulting me, that is destroying this blog becuassde as you know I will not back down with you in ANY thread you spoil.<BR/><BR/>Blow by blow I will beat you.<BR/><BR/>As for tone, in my emails with ren it is clear who is the offender here but you are lucky in that Ren does not believe in comment modding or removing offensive, esp homophobic, comments from here.<BR/><BR/>You fail again.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-62980266107146441172009-04-06T12:08:00.000-05:002009-04-06T12:08:00.000-05:00I opened? Best look again, poofty.As is evident t...I opened? Best look again, poofty.<BR/><BR/>As is evident to one and all (except for you) you're the "tone" problem at this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-63367044691998796712009-04-01T07:12:00.000-05:002009-04-01T07:12:00.000-05:00And now you open this up again?Fuck off you slimey...And now you open this up again?<BR/><BR/>Fuck off you slimey childish cunt.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-39866241903031945372009-04-01T07:09:00.000-05:002009-04-01T07:09:00.000-05:00...unlike DHG, who is a fucked twat....unlike DHG, who is a fucked twat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-29259545454357648082009-03-29T14:43:00.000-05:002009-03-29T14:43:00.000-05:00Mr. Divine is a fucking twat.Mr. Divine is a fucking twat.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-38629416934877707942009-03-29T12:12:00.000-05:002009-03-29T12:12:00.000-05:00What a piece of idiocy this is. Most men visited b...What a piece of idiocy this is. Most men visited brothels in those days. The age of consent in Victorian England was 12. And just because a man visited a Victorian brothel does not mean he had sex with a child. Furthermore Marx did not invent either socialism or the word socialism. Both date back to the 1820's - about the time KM was less than 10 years old. Do a little reading before you babble!Larry Gambonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04965037776214596919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-31779406681716813262009-03-27T22:32:00.000-05:002009-03-27T22:32:00.000-05:00Sometihing I read recently about the word, "Social...Sometihing I read recently about the word, "Socialism' concerns the behaviour of Karl Marx. It is well known that Karl Marx with his friend Engles visited brothels. In these brothels there were underage children. It is very likely that Marx had sex with underage girls.<BR/>The founder of the word, "Socialist' was I fact a pedophile.<BR/><BR/>I don't know where the writer got the information from but every time I hear the word, "Socialism" I connect it with pedophilia.Mr. Divinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11522706283711182323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-27090332272317026092009-03-26T06:25:00.000-05:002009-03-26T06:25:00.000-05:00Opportunistic int he sense that it comesat a time ...Opportunistic int he sense that it comesat a time of tragedy and suggests and unworkable solution.<BR/><BR/>As Gert and I said a way back in this comment thread.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-45230459845867437712009-03-26T01:11:00.000-05:002009-03-26T01:11:00.000-05:00Nobody said violence will come again, other than T...Nobody said violence will come again, other than Tony speculating about the side effects of the economic crisis.<BR/><BR/>Its nonsense that the post inflated the new IRA. It was the opposite.<BR/><BR/>Nothing opportunistic about that post. The group that wrote it, opposed IRA guerillaism from the first day. The roots of that group, go back to the 1930s.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-53876345069878788952009-03-25T13:01:00.000-05:002009-03-25T13:01:00.000-05:00I agree with Daniel and some others: this piece is...I agree with Daniel and some others: this piece is quite opportunistic and risks inflating the residual problems in N.Ireland. The 'Real' and 'Continuation' IRA are DIY 'terrorists' and complete amateurs compared to the actual IRA of yonder.<BR/><BR/>Integration is something HMG should be promoting actively. I think they're simply a bit asleep at the wheel after the initial success of the Good Friday Agreement and the positive developments that followed in its wake.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps the minor skirmishes we've seen recently will at least bring the matter a bit more to the fore again. But beware of scaremongers that'll tell you that 'nothing has changed' and that 'more terror is just round the corner'. Only a very superficial (and possibly self-serving) analysis would lead to that conclusion.<BR/><BR/>Seriously derailing the current situation would be very difficult. New terror groups would be viewed much like ETA in the Basque region: with utter horror.Gerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752117708821629614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-74185159932771584462009-03-25T06:07:00.000-05:002009-03-25T06:07:00.000-05:00I'll agree with Larry in that I was being harsh, I...I'll agree with Larry in that I was being harsh, I'll accept that and apologise.<BR/><BR/>Also Ren, there is some confusion in your answer between Northern Ireland, which is waht the post is about and The Republic of Ireland wihich you comment on, the two are very different and in different places economically and socio-politically; getting the two mixed up is a red herring I fear.Daniel Hoffmann-Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531802987223516482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-67425453817100636562009-03-25T01:26:00.000-05:002009-03-25T01:26:00.000-05:00Pagan: The post was supportive of how the terroris...Pagan: The post was supportive of how the terrorist act, was soundly denounced.<BR/><BR/>There was no demagoguery. How could you say that without showing a quote from the post?<BR/><BR/>There was no history in Venezuela, of occupying factories. We planted the idea, in the days it was considered absurd. In the Soviet Union we raise ideas that are remote of happening. You need to plant the seeds. In Pakistan we have thousands of members, but we started with one. Qualititative change can cause quantitative change.<BR/><BR/>What kind of people will be swayed by a call to end sectarianism, unite Ireland, end guerillaism, who knows. The country is going in that direction, more than not.<BR/><BR/>On March 30th, Ireland is having a general strike. There will be no sectarianism then.<BR/><BR/>The Celtic Tiger is dead. People who immigrated to Ireland, are moving too Scandinavia.<BR/><BR/>Ireland is losing skilled jobs to Asia and Latin America.<BR/><BR/>Ireland was the first European country, to announce it is in recession.<BR/><BR/>Housing prices may fall 30%.<BR/><BR/>Daniel H-G: Ask your friend if he ever heard of James Connelly.<BR/><BR/>Larry G: Interesting concept.<BR/><BR/>FJ: Capitalism is also a process.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-54212770413905468162009-03-24T19:27:00.000-05:002009-03-24T19:27:00.000-05:00I thank Larry for the closest thing to a definitio...I thank Larry for the closest thing to a definition of socialism I've seen on this blog yet.<BR/><BR/>No really, thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-5036185864891457082009-03-24T14:34:00.000-05:002009-03-24T14:34:00.000-05:00Ren-You're making a big mistake. You've had two pe...Ren-<BR/><BR/>You're making a big mistake. You've had two people here who have criticized the tone of this and similar articles, two people who come closer to agreeing with your overall views than I ever could. The lesson you should take from that is, it's never good when potential allies or sympathizers see you as "pigging-backing", as Daniel put it, on a tragedy.<BR/><BR/>Rather than seeing it as "red-baiting" you should see it for what it is-an honest criticism of your compatriots tactics and uncalled for demagoguery over what is, after all, a painful and tragic event.<BR/><BR/>I would also like to point out yet another aspect that might be the most important one of all. There are certainly a certain number of people who might be swayed by appeals such as this-but what kind of people?SecondComingOfBasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03336586430250490679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-69691975597761469362009-03-24T13:30:00.000-05:002009-03-24T13:30:00.000-05:00Actually I don't see how Daniel is red-baiting eit...Actually I don't see how Daniel is red-baiting either, even though he is certainly being harsh. <BR/><BR/>Once again, the problem comes down to seeing socialism as a thing to be imposed - which then makes it look as though socialism was some kind of panacea. As I explained above - several times in fact - it is a process and the first step in that process is for ordinary people to realize they have more in common with each other than those things that divide them, such as ethnicity and religion.<BR/><BR/>The problem of the reification of socialism - or any other concept for that matter - is partly rooted in our language in which concepts are given the form of nouns - that is they are turned into fixed things. Some languages, such as Aboriginal ones are verb-based a tree is a "tree-ing" for example, so everything is seen as processes rather than fixed objects.Larry Gambonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04965037776214596919noreply@blogger.com