tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post2681943662691063268..comments2023-11-05T03:12:10.925-06:00Comments on Renegade Eye: Bolivia: Renewed Offensive of the Oligarchy – Time to Strike Back!Frank Partisanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-7540483759594543422008-09-16T01:18:00.000-05:002008-09-16T01:18:00.000-05:00I have a MAC computer. The download (PDF) didn't ...I have a MAC computer. The download (PDF) didn't work.<BR/><BR/>Use the new post to comment. Your comments are related to the new post.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-77806184421033439332008-09-15T22:39:00.000-05:002008-09-15T22:39:00.000-05:00REN, Venezuela is now divided into 5 super regions...REN, <BR/>Venezuela is now divided into 5 super regions controlled by super generales, all Mayor Generales which were named today in the city of Ciudad Bolivar.<BR/>This is all part of his decree, one of 26, which he made against the direct vote of the people last December.The Law of the Bolivarian Military.<BR/>The five regions are as follows:<BR/><BR/>La primera región es la central, conformada por los estados Aragua, Vargas, Gran Caracas, Yaracuy, Miranda, DF y Carabobo.<BR/><BR/>La segunda es la occidental, conformada por Falcón, Lara, Trujillo, Mérida, Táchira y Zulia.<BR/><BR/>La tercera, es la de los Llanos, conformada por Barinas, Apure, Portuguesa, Cojedes y Guárico.<BR/><BR/>La cuarta, es región Guayana, que la conforman los estados Delta Amacuro, Bolívar y Amazonas.,<BR/><BR/>La quinta, es la oriental, integrada por Anzoátegui, Monagas, Sucre y Nueva Esparta.<BR/><BR/>You can read the law here<BR/>http://media.noticias24.com/0808/gac5891.pdf in the Official Declaration on line. It places the Super Generals above the elected Governors and directly under Chavez.<BR/>It was televised so you may as well believe it.Rita Locahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09961929692808138092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-76198805037636017312008-09-15T19:42:00.000-05:002008-09-15T19:42:00.000-05:00Anh: I took the survey. I hope you'll continue to...Anh: I took the survey. I hope you'll continue to visit this blog.<BR/><BR/>Jungle Mom: My comrades support:<BR/>1) The right to recall.<BR/>2) Politicians not being paid more than the average worker.<BR/><BR/>There is an entrenched bureaucracy of career politicians, who sabotage anything that takes their priviledge.<BR/><BR/>Venezuela defeated a coup at home. I doubt if Chavez's support for Morales is more than symbolic.<BR/><BR/>I don't believe Venezuela, would allow the military the kind of power you describe.<BR/><BR/>Continue the discussion after reading my updated post.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-9591905398918211762008-09-15T11:51:00.000-05:002008-09-15T11:51:00.000-05:00Chavez offers to die for Bolivia and Evo turned do...Chavez offers to die for Bolivia and Evo turned down his military aid...Chavez is now so tainted!<BR/><BR/>As for Dictatorship in Venezuela and the November elections... you seem to be unaware of the fact that Chavez has already set up 'zones' across the country which are under the protection of military generals who now rank over the elected governors. This was done to counter effect the possible loss of many Governorships and still leaves Chavez in complete control.<BR/> DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!Rita Locahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09961929692808138092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-89362197685313872712008-09-15T03:22:00.000-05:002008-09-15T03:22:00.000-05:00Celticfire: It's not so simple. Just expelling th...Celticfire: It's not so simple. Just expelling the ambassador, isn't enough. He is also holding unconditional talks with the fascists.<BR/><BR/>Lew: In addition there was a coup uncovered in Venezuela.<BR/><BR/>Ducky: I heard there was a gigantic demonstration in support of Chavez, after the coup was made public.<BR/><BR/>Troutsky: If Morales wanted, he could shorten this fiasco, by using state power. Use parlimentary power, people in the streets and the military.<BR/><BR/>Maria Teresa: Historically borders in South America, is relatively new. I support a socialist federation of South American states.<BR/><BR/>Dave: You can't skip the stage of making demands on Morales. Within the MAS the demand of no negotiations with fascists, use the military etc. should be raised. If people believe in it, it can't be ignored.<BR/><BR/>If a formation like the PSUV is formed, it should be supported.<BR/><BR/>FJ: He did bring it on himself.<BR/><BR/>David: The last I heard about 70 peasants were massacred.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-4774004291735255602008-09-14T19:34:00.000-05:002008-09-14T19:34:00.000-05:00Sorry for shameless plug, but we've translated sev...Sorry for shameless plug, but we've translated several pieces about the state of the Bolivian workers' movement and Morales' inaction in fighting the far right<BR/><BR/>http://thecommune.wordpress.com/category/bolivia/anonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00432489356958540355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-24297990741699489562008-09-14T19:18:00.000-05:002008-09-14T19:18:00.000-05:00Evo brought this down on himself. And now we get ...Evo brought this down on himself. And now we get to see just how weak he really is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-52758571110407206712008-09-14T19:01:00.000-05:002008-09-14T19:01:00.000-05:00Anybody who says this about the MAS government is ...Anybody who says this about the MAS government is sowing illusions in it ability to fight fascism.<BR/><BR/>"The problem is that the MAS leaders and the government seem to only want to use strictly legal and institutional means. The class struggle is not like a game of chess, in which your opponent will abide by the rules of the game. It is more like a boxing match in which your opponent is using all sorts of dirty tricks and controls the referee as well. If the MAS government wants to continue playing chess while the oligarchy is fighting a dirty boxing match, it is clear who is going to win."<BR/><BR/>This reduces the role of MAS and the Morales regime to a matter of the correct tactics. It was the same argument used by the POR against the MNR government in 1952, who claimed that its failure to go all the way to a workers government was a ...mistake.<BR/><BR/>The fact is that Morales rescued the oligarchy in 2005 outside Sucre. His government continued to negotiate with the fascists, and tried to prove that it was able to maintain order by killing miners in early August. <BR/><BR/>There is really only one way to end this and that is for the united, armed workers and poor peasants to call on the support of the ranks of the army and to march on Santa Cruz and smash the fascists.Dave Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12873621971212067467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-53833195004827487642008-09-14T18:24:00.000-05:002008-09-14T18:24:00.000-05:00Each country has to solve its problems without ass...Each country has to solve its problems without assistance from others.Unahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11259832598217276587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-10207757212842594742008-09-14T14:59:00.000-05:002008-09-14T14:59:00.000-05:00sonia, if "evil wins either way", maybe what they ...sonia, if "evil wins either way", maybe what they really need is an exorcist? Instead of absurd evangelicalism, lets stick to politics. The author states that a mass mobilization could defeat the right wing forces "in days" but i wonder about a counter-insurgency fought in difficult terrain. A drawn out civil war would be disaster as well. Much hinges on Brazils willingness to deal with oligarchs. Otherwise they could be isolated and starved out over time.The MAS should use hit and run couter insurgency tactics against right wing targets to disrupt supply chains and communications.troutskyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16020298501632120830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-18435152853856018802008-09-14T11:14:00.000-05:002008-09-14T11:14:00.000-05:00Hmmm ... another coup. Reminds me of the time tha...Hmmm ... another coup.<BR/><BR/> Reminds me of the time that they tried to boot out Chavez a few weeks after Papa Bush just happened to be in Venezuela for several sport fishing "vacations" in the previous couple of months.Ducky's herehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14608115001116619877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-44854203276917877392008-09-14T07:34:00.000-05:002008-09-14T07:34:00.000-05:00Trouble in an oil producing economy and who is beh...Trouble in an oil producing economy and who is behind it (again)?Lew Scannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12788033661013005904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-48258360917091682892008-09-13T12:56:00.000-05:002008-09-13T12:56:00.000-05:00I think Evo demonstrated some intelligent insight ...I think Evo demonstrated some intelligent insight doing this. Given the bloody history of U.S. interventions ala "Schools of America" in Latin America, I think it was a correct move on his part. Evo won't allow himself to be the next Allende.celticfirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14692685782905110663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-68952228901609800702008-09-12T23:41:00.000-05:002008-09-12T23:41:00.000-05:00Graeme: Morales has been upset with the US embassy...Graeme: Morales has been upset with the US embassy, for quite awhile.<BR/><BR/>Red Eyes: You are way off base. Morales is fighting for his life. He is too concillatory.<BR/><BR/>Foxessa: You blog is the one to go to, to find Cuba and New Orleans news,<BR/><BR/>Dave: Jorge isn't surprised in the least. Saying Morales is too concillatory, is not a new idea.<BR/><BR/>Demands need to be put to Morales. You can't skip that step. People believe in him, so he can't be ignored.<BR/><BR/>Jorge's position is similar to yours.<BR/><BR/>Border Explorer: Unfortunately there is little difference between McCain and Obama here.<BR/><BR/>Larry: Morales's cautiousness makes the situation different than Venezuela. In Bolivia the radicalism is more on the ground than in Venezuela.<BR/><BR/>Sonia: Morales is set in his ways, he was never anything but a parlimentarian. Having to fightback doesn't mean bloodthirstiness.<BR/><BR/>Venezuela is not a dictatorship, in any sense. I expect Chavez to lose, midterm elections in November. Dictators don't lose midterm elections. They don't talk about workers control, or encourage community organizing.Frank Partisanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536211653082893030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-55227874545402932382008-09-12T18:50:00.000-05:002008-09-12T18:50:00.000-05:00The only hope is that the working people of Bolivi...The only hope is that the working people of Bolivia lose patience with both the fascists and Morales attempts to be Mr. Nice Guy. No more Mr. Nice Guy! No more Mr. Clean! The Gringo-supported ruling class scum should taste the wrath that results from 500 years of oppression of the Bolivian people.Larry Gambonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04965037776214596919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-1622167658187897352008-09-12T16:29:00.000-05:002008-09-12T16:29:00.000-05:00//The dark hand of the United States was also invo...<I>//The dark hand of the United States was also involved.//</I><BR/><BR/>Lord have mercy on us.<BR/>God help the Bolivian people.<BR/>Viva Evo!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for posting on this. It's not getting any coverage in our local newspaper. So far, I've had to search for any info on what's happening.Billie Greenwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08214111146566550821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-59577978048148043992008-09-12T15:42:00.000-05:002008-09-12T15:42:00.000-05:00I think Morales may have acted too quickly!I think Morales may have acted too quickly!?https://www.blogger.com/profile/01992276117548193938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-92134817922990253322008-09-12T15:04:00.000-05:002008-09-12T15:04:00.000-05:00I knew I'd find information about what and how thi...I knew I'd find information about what and how this happened on this blog.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.<BR/><BR/>Love, C.Foxessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06754083123669916994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-90365291216181156122008-09-12T12:47:00.000-05:002008-09-12T12:47:00.000-05:00Morales is in a different position from Chavez. Hi...Morales is in a different position from Chavez. His problems with the US are caused by American anti-drug policies. He isn't seeking to establish a totalitarian dictatorship in Bolivia (like Chavez is trying in Venezuela). So yes, he is in real danger of being overthrown. Like Allende was in 1973.<BR/><BR/>It comes down, once again, to a choice between being overthrown or becoming a bloodthirsty totalitarian dictator himself. Be killed or become a killer yourself.<BR/><BR/>Depressing either way... And either way, the evil wins.soniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938174968325568608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-90902043027642258292008-09-12T07:50:00.000-05:002008-09-12T07:50:00.000-05:00Morales is not fighting back. He continues to do d...Morales is not fighting back. He continues to do deals with the right wing fascists, and allows them time to organise. <BR/>Martin seems to be surprised about this. Yet Morales was responsible for kneecapping the 2005 revolution. I see no mention of the fact that the army killed 2 miners at Oruro recently.<BR/>Nor does Martin and his tendency recognise that it is the leaders of the miners that are the problem, backing Morales and demobilising the unity of the workers. <BR/>The demand to break with the bureaucracy and with Morales and call a national congress of delegates of the rank and file is the demand of the day.<BR/>http://redrave.blogspot.com/2008/08/bolivia-5th-august-we-must-stop.htmlDave Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12873621971212067467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-90125874242454660762008-09-12T07:04:00.000-05:002008-09-12T07:04:00.000-05:00wow. do you think that morales is going to fight ...wow. do you think that morales is going to fight back? i suppose that's one reason he is chatting it up with iran and venezuela. i hope that there comes a day when people realize that there is more to life than the acquisition of money and power. until then, small minded people like cheney and his ilk will continue to stir up trouble wherever they go.billiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16206096509976316141noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11704331.post-19462496533060055672008-09-12T01:34:00.000-05:002008-09-12T01:34:00.000-05:00Morales was smart to kick the US ambassador out.Morales was smart to kick the US ambassador out.Graemehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04230080850680753260noreply@blogger.com